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If you can, come on out West. The State of Washington awaits you, and there are jobs out here.
Good Firearms Related Jobs??????
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If you can, come on out West. The State of Washington awaits you, and there are jobs out here.
Black_Talon
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What kind of jobs?
I was just reading an article yesterday that said that Washington State has the 6th highest unemployment rate in the nation. All the Boeing and Dotcom folks pounding the pavement looking for jobs.
Now that's just nonsense. I'm in Boston. Is the job market bad? Yes. But there are jobs. Maybe not great jobs. But there are jobs. If you want a job, you can find one. It might be in the local bagel shop, the pay will suck and there will be no benefits, but you can find a job.
Ed Ely
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I repost, perhaps the meaning was lost in
the translation. What is posted below does
not require one to even get off their a*s to
find a job.....if they want a job.
someplace that matches your skills.
Here are a few sites to begin with:
http://www.bostonjobs.com/index.cfm
http://bostonworks.boston.com/
http://www.bostonsearch.com/
http://seeker.dice.com/seeker.epl?rel_code=35&op=1
http://www.bostonhire.com/
http://boston.preferredjobs.com/
http://boston.employmentguide.com/site/index.html
http://www.massachusetts-job.com/
http://www.jobsinma.com/home/home.asp
http://www.careers.org/reg/crusa-ma.html
http://www.massachusetts.localopenings.com/
http://www.jobsbystate.info/sma.shtml
http://www.allmassjobs.com/jobs.htm
http://www.employmentspot.com/state/ma.htm
http://www.massjwj.net/
http://www.massachusetts.jobs-employment.net/
Hope this helps some.
the translation. What is posted below does
not require one to even get off their a*s to
find a job.....if they want a job.
someplace that matches your skills.
Here are a few sites to begin with:
http://www.bostonjobs.com/index.cfm
http://bostonworks.boston.com/
http://www.bostonsearch.com/
http://seeker.dice.com/seeker.epl?rel_code=35&op=1
http://www.bostonhire.com/
http://boston.preferredjobs.com/
http://boston.employmentguide.com/site/index.html
http://www.massachusetts-job.com/
http://www.jobsinma.com/home/home.asp
http://www.careers.org/reg/crusa-ma.html
http://www.massachusetts.localopenings.com/
http://www.jobsbystate.info/sma.shtml
http://www.allmassjobs.com/jobs.htm
http://www.employmentspot.com/state/ma.htm
http://www.massjwj.net/
http://www.massachusetts.jobs-employment.net/
Hope this helps some.
carp killer
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Gunsmith is a good line to get into if you are good at it. My gunsmith is backed up regularly for at least a month. But you will need to buy some expensive tools. Like a lathe, mill, press, and some hand tools.
I always thought I might like to work in a pawn shop or gun store after I retire. I will not need the money and I would get a shot at some cool toy that walks in the door.
Or maybe do the weekend gunshow thing. Set up a table or two and sell Assault Weapons and Hi-cap magazines. You will make money.
I always thought I might like to work in a pawn shop or gun store after I retire. I will not need the money and I would get a shot at some cool toy that walks in the door.
Or maybe do the weekend gunshow thing. Set up a table or two and sell Assault Weapons and Hi-cap magazines. You will make money.
I've managed to find 2 jobs for the summer "break". I work as a banker full time and for a Wall Street based investment firm (in the Indy office though of course). Find out what you do well, what you're qualified for, what you have experience in, and seek thyself a job. If anyone REALLY needs help finding one, PM me. I can probably give some tips on some of the most recent job finding skills that I have learned in class.
El Tejon
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Or, you can do what this country is alleged to be about--MAKE YOUR OWN JOB!!!
You just have to share it with the Welfare State.
You just have to share it with the Welfare State.
Combat-wombat
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Well, you wouldn't be actually shooting or handling guns, but you can get a job with the NRA.
NRA Careers
Check out the openings. They've got some pretty good ones.
NRA Careers
Check out the openings. They've got some pretty good ones.
Joe Demko
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Just thought I'd interject that the desire to carry a gun is the worst reason I've ever heard for someone to join LE. If your brother wants to carry a gun, why doesn't he just get a permit and carry one?
Those who already mentioned the best solution is to get education/training, make a lot of money, and spend it on shooting were absolutely right.
Those who already mentioned the best solution is to get education/training, make a lot of money, and spend it on shooting were absolutely right.
Wow! Thanks all for your very helpful and interesting advice! You mention some things that I have never thought of.
"You may be able to get armored car guard without experience but that seems to be pretty backbreaking work, and not a lot of money."
That's what I have been looking at as of late, actually. They claim to start at $9.50 an hour, but I will try to negotiate higher and see where that goes.
M1911 is right, though I don't exactly live "in" Boston, but fairly close to it. I can get a job at a bagel shop, grocery store, or dunkin doughnuts most likely. Which, though they pay minimum wage, may not be a bad idea to do while I look for a better one. Though I don't exactly relish the idea.
.....I still like the idea of executive protection.
"You may be able to get armored car guard without experience but that seems to be pretty backbreaking work, and not a lot of money."
That's what I have been looking at as of late, actually. They claim to start at $9.50 an hour, but I will try to negotiate higher and see where that goes.
M1911 is right, though I don't exactly live "in" Boston, but fairly close to it. I can get a job at a bagel shop, grocery store, or dunkin doughnuts most likely. Which, though they pay minimum wage, may not be a bad idea to do while I look for a better one. Though I don't exactly relish the idea.
.....I still like the idea of executive protection.
Blain:
If you really want to get a job at executive protection, you need training. There are a number of reputable schools. Here's a review of some of them:
http://64.177.53.248/ubb/Forum51/HTML/000077.html
The guys who hang out there say that using a gun is a very, very small part of EP.
Don't think you that because you shoot guns as a hobby that you are now qualified to work in executive protection.
M1911
If you really want to get a job at executive protection, you need training. There are a number of reputable schools. Here's a review of some of them:
http://64.177.53.248/ubb/Forum51/HTML/000077.html
The guys who hang out there say that using a gun is a very, very small part of EP.
Don't think you that because you shoot guns as a hobby that you are now qualified to work in executive protection.
M1911
Tommy Gunn
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My advise is to be an infantryman or armorer in the National Guard.
CZ-100
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Hey they are looking for a President.
chaim
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I'd talk to Mike Irwin about that first. He worked there for a while and could probably let us know how they are to work for.
Mike Irwin
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I worked for NRA 10 years ago, for American Rifleman magazine.
Got shoot some, which was very cool.
Simply put, at that time, NRA was a HORRIBLE place to work. Upper management treated the lower level employees like ????, it seemed they did everything possible to kill moral instead of bolster it, and it was felt that La Pierre and the rest of them simply couldn't be trusted.
I haven't talked to anyone there recently.
Hopefully the situation has changed for the better, but I do know that NRA's salaries don't resemble anything even remotely related to a livable wage for the Northern Virginia area.
As I've said before, though, when you work for NRA, you don't do it for the salary. You do it because you believe in the organization and it's goals.
After working their for nearly 4 years, it took me a LONG time before I could believe in the organization again.
Got shoot some, which was very cool.
Simply put, at that time, NRA was a HORRIBLE place to work. Upper management treated the lower level employees like ????, it seemed they did everything possible to kill moral instead of bolster it, and it was felt that La Pierre and the rest of them simply couldn't be trusted.
I haven't talked to anyone there recently.
Hopefully the situation has changed for the better, but I do know that NRA's salaries don't resemble anything even remotely related to a livable wage for the Northern Virginia area.
As I've said before, though, when you work for NRA, you don't do it for the salary. You do it because you believe in the organization and it's goals.
After working their for nearly 4 years, it took me a LONG time before I could believe in the organization again.
VaughnT
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Blain, Brinks is a very good company to work for as they are very diversified. All of the people that I've met in that company seem like really good folks.
Armored Transport Systems is the second or third largest in the country and does great by me.
Loomis Fargo always seems to be getting robbed, but I don't have a lot of interaction with their people. I would caution, however, that of all the reports we get in our office, the majority of them are of LF trucks being robbed. I don't know why, but AT and Brinks are far behind them in that regard.
The worst outfits seem to be those local outfits that are trying to become big outfits. With little income from their customers, they literally hang on the balance and one lost contract can mean layoffs. Often, they are staffed by retirees and have little in the way of gear and equipment or benefits. I would strongly urge you to steer clear of them.
Pay generally starts you off at $9.50, regardless of the company. There might be some fluctuations, but that's rare. The good news is that you can move up rather quickly. Don't bank on being able to negotiate a higher rate, regardless of your resume. AT policy is simple: All new-hires start out at the bottom grade and move up accordingly. Acquiring various licenses and qualifications, and seniority, will see you earning more....just like any other job.
Frustration is you biggest hurdle to get over. You'll most likely be working with a bunch of Barney Fife's and that can be frustrating. We see a lot of turnover with the younger guys because they wanted/expected it to be more of a SWAT operation with every man a ground-pounding meateater. That's not the reality of it and you need to learn how to simply let it go.
The question isn't how your coworkers make you look, but how you make yourself look. How do you carry yourself? How do you deal with customers? How do you dress? How do you move? How do you shoot? If you're satisfied with the answers to those questions, don't worry about what others might think. You know where you stand and that's all that matters. Believe me, the higher ups will see your performance and demeanor and react accordingly.
Armored Transport Systems is the second or third largest in the country and does great by me.
Loomis Fargo always seems to be getting robbed, but I don't have a lot of interaction with their people. I would caution, however, that of all the reports we get in our office, the majority of them are of LF trucks being robbed. I don't know why, but AT and Brinks are far behind them in that regard.
The worst outfits seem to be those local outfits that are trying to become big outfits. With little income from their customers, they literally hang on the balance and one lost contract can mean layoffs. Often, they are staffed by retirees and have little in the way of gear and equipment or benefits. I would strongly urge you to steer clear of them.
Pay generally starts you off at $9.50, regardless of the company. There might be some fluctuations, but that's rare. The good news is that you can move up rather quickly. Don't bank on being able to negotiate a higher rate, regardless of your resume. AT policy is simple: All new-hires start out at the bottom grade and move up accordingly. Acquiring various licenses and qualifications, and seniority, will see you earning more....just like any other job.
Frustration is you biggest hurdle to get over. You'll most likely be working with a bunch of Barney Fife's and that can be frustrating. We see a lot of turnover with the younger guys because they wanted/expected it to be more of a SWAT operation with every man a ground-pounding meateater. That's not the reality of it and you need to learn how to simply let it go.
The question isn't how your coworkers make you look, but how you make yourself look. How do you carry yourself? How do you deal with customers? How do you dress? How do you move? How do you shoot? If you're satisfied with the answers to those questions, don't worry about what others might think. You know where you stand and that's all that matters. Believe me, the higher ups will see your performance and demeanor and react accordingly.
ElToro
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go to college and get an engineering degree and get a job with a manufacturer in R&D, or in physics and get a job with an ammo company... or gunsmithing, all gunsmiths in the bay area are backed up
Hot brass
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L. E. O. Carry a gun, protect the inocent, good pay, career move.
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