Good price for Rem 870 or Moss 500?

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What's a good price to pay for an 870 express or a Mossberg 500? Also, what's the major difference between the 870 and the 870 express?

It seems from searching the forums that the 870 has the edge over the Mossberg 500 in terms of smoothness, fit, and service life. But does the 870 express have those same advantages over a Mossberg 500?
 
Dunno about Mossberg. It's been years since I owned one. (Mossberg Chuckster, 22 magnum rifle.)

But I currently own two 870s. Wingmaster and Express.

My Wingmaster is one of the last left-handed Wingmasters they made, and it was made in old world tradition. Very smooth and very pretty. I paid around $500+ for this fine firearm. I've had it only about ten years, but she's a beauty.

I also own an Express Synthetic. The only difference is in finish. The express is the same 870, only on a budget. I paid $300 for it.

Both guns were new.

I'm sure Mossberg would serve you well. But I guarantee you'll never be disappointed with Remington.
 
I think when they go on sale at Academy here (a couple times a year) the 870 express is $196. Regularly they are about $220. Both of these prices are cheaper than I can get them wholesale.

I've bought a ton of used 870s at pawn shops in the $120-140 range.

All firearms pricing depends on your location, but I've found that the cost of 870s can vary by a huge amount depending on where you are.
 
I have an 870 Express. I compared it with the Wingmaster version yesterday. I'd managed to gum mine up with the wrong kind of oil yesterday, but under normal circumstances, it is very similar. The Wingmaster slide is a tad tighter feeling, and the trigger assembly has a metal frame -- Aluminum alloy, I think -- whereas the Express has a plastic trigger assembly. Don't be turned off by the word "plastic" -- this plastic like Glock plastic, not plastic like toy plastic.:)

The Wingmaster has a nicer rib, a nicer front bead, and a middle bead which the Express lacks. The Wingmaster finish is polished, whereas the Express finish is rough. The Express is prone to light surface rust from sweat and water, but the flipside is that said rust wipes off with Rusthunter or Break-Free and a rag.

The Mossberg also has a nicer rib than the Express, and the Mossy comes with two beads like the Wingmaster. IMO the slide doesn't feel as good as an 870, but it's not at all bad. The receiver is aluminum alloy, so the all-steel Remington can take more abuse in the form of heavy loads, but the Mossy doesn't rust. It will get scratched up more easily, though. I've never had a "scratch" on the Express that didn't disappear with some gun oil and a rag.

All told, if I'd have known how much I'd like shotguns, I would have gotten a Wingmaster first, and an Express for throwing in the dirt or boat.

Between the Mossberg and Express, I'd say it comes down to fit and feel. What feels good in your hands? Their stocks are different; the Mossy has a fat wrist. If you have small hands, it might be a problem, but otherwise, you might like it.

The Mossberg does come more fully-equipped than the Express: it has three chokes vs. the Express' single choke ($28.50 at Wal-Mart for the "upgrade kit" with the other two, a nicer wrench, some oil and a box). It appears to come with sling swivels, though that doesn't appear in the specs. It will cost you between $13 and $30 to add them to the Express, if you want them. (One upland hunting season without them, and I'm ordering some! If you hunt in boots, the sling swivels are a real plus!) Mossberg also sells spacers to change the stock drop, for better fit. An 870 happens to fit me as-is, so I don't care, but otherwise this is a neat thing. The only thing that I would recommend is, if you get the Mossberg, remove the rust-producing wooden magazine plug and throw it away! Or keep it just long enough to use it as a gauge so you know how long to cut an aftermarket plastic one (a few bucks from Wal-Mart or your favorite vendor).

Note the difference in trigger reach, grip angle, etc. between the guns. That's one reason to go and feel them for yourself.

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I'm an 870 fan, and I may never buy a Mossberg shotgun. But it's hard to argue that someone else shouldn't.
 
Does Academy ship?

Does Academy ship out of state? Those prices are way better than the prices around here.
 
For the 870 and the 500 the best place to buy are Pawn shops. I wish I had known this years ago before I spent muck more than I needed to on many of my pumps.

I can walk into a local pawn shop and probably walk out with either a nice hardly used 500 for around $100 or an 870 for about $140.

The last Moss 500 I got was from a pawn shop and I paid $55 for it. It looked beat up because a dog had actually chewed the wood stock. There was no rust on it and little wear. I bought it and put a black plastic Moss stock on it. I then went to a local gunstore and traded my 28" vent rib bbl for an 18" rifle sighted smooth bore slug bbl straight up. Now I have a pretty cool looking defense type shotgun for about $80 with the price of the stock. You can't beat that.
 
I prefer the Mossberg because of the placement of the safety. I can get it off quicker & without feeling around for it on the triggerguard.

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I paid close to $300 for my 870 express, I was 18 and didn't know any better. Last year I picked up a older Wingmaster for about $150. Pawnshops are the way to go. I like the Wingmaster alot better. It feels smoother and is just alot sexier.
 
As diehard an 870 fan as there is, I still think the Mossbergs have a lot going for them.

Get the one that feels best and wear it out......
 
I recently found a nice Mossy 500AG 24 inch barrel, at a local pawn shop for $150 out the door. It was really dirty, but otherwise fine. Cleaned up very nicely.
 
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