Good range trip, and the subjective nature of recoil...

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I had a very informative trip to the range yesterday.

I brought my usual assortment of guns to shoot (.357 Blackhawk, .357 SP101 snubbie, Underfolder AK47, NEF 410) and met up with an old friend who had 2 new guns he wanted to try out, a Springfield 1911 and a DPMS AR15 with a holosite, the brand of which I didn't check. He also brought his old Ruger 9mm, which was clunky but fun to shoot.

We had a great time, and an older fella nearby wandered over to see what all that noise was coming from.

Me: "You're welcome to try anything you see here."

Older fella: "Those look a little big for me, I'll stick with my .22 and .380 today"

Me: "Well, you're shooting better than we are! What .22 do you have over there?"

Older fella: "I don't know about that, but here's my .22. I'll load it up for you and you can try it out!"

Me: "Wow, thanks!"

It was a Mark II 5" stainless bull barrel with really nice wood grips that had a thumbrest in just the right spot, and adjustable sights. I shot my 10 rds and thanked him, and my buddy shot it as well. We both agreed it was one sweetheart of a gun.

A benchrest shooter then started chatting with the older fella (benchrest guy had a very nice rig, and was shooting what somebody on here described once as "cat sneeze" rounds) so we went back to shooting our stuff.

So I tried out the legendary 1911. I had shot them before, but upon grabbing that Springfield I realized I had only shot double-stack versions. Holding that single-stack gun in my hand I realized why some guys form a religion around these guns. The ergonomics are absolutely perfect! It pointed so natural, felt so right, I could not wait to shoot it.

Then I shot 7 rounds and a nerve in my wrist was screaming in agony, or maybe that was me screaming... The recoil was no big deal, muzzle flip was no big deal, but the actual recoil impulse was hitting me just right to aggravate the nerve damage I have in that hand and wrist. I have never had a handgun hurt my wrist like that. My SP101 makes my hand tender and weak after awhile, and my wrist might ache a little, but that 1911 was just waking up that nerve with every shot! I was amazed, as the "kick" itself was no harder than the Blackhawk, much less than the snubbie. I fired two more magazines worth, adjusting my grip each time, because I was shooting it well and liked the design a lot, but no matter what I did it just wanged that nerve by the end of the magazine to the point I had to take a break afterward.

I went back to shooting my guns for awhile and then it was time to go. As we were packing up a couple of other guys came in and one was shooting a fancy Smith & Wesson that thundered like a .44, so we had to inquire as to just what that thing was. It was a Performance Center model, in olive drab green with black rubber grips and an 8" (roughly) barrel that was broad like a Taurus Raging Bull barrel. The owner's friend loaded 3 rounds of .44 Magnum in it and handed it to me. I was hesitant as I was plenty sore already, but I braced like hell and prepared to flinch my ass off. I cocked the hammer and let one slip, and it was an absolute joy! No pain, big noise, and I finally experienced the "slow heavy push" big bore shooters talk about. No snappy muzzle flip, just a slow heavy push and big time fun. I fired the next two and wished I could shoot a box right then and there. Instead I thanked him and we talked for awhile as my friend also shot 3 through it. I normally don't like a double action style grip, but whatever was on that gun was perfect for me.

So I learned I can't handle a 1911, but a heavy .44 Magnum with the right grips is a real treat. Go figure. We also learned the holosite was garbage, and we shot much better using the iron sights with just a couple adjustments. No matter what we did the holosite was out of shape after a few shots. :barf: Also the AK47 fired from the hip with stock folded is pretty well pointless unless you plan on spraying bullets in a string rather than taking single shots.

I never thought I'd consider getting rid of the Blackhawk, but I would in a heartbeat to get a .44 like that one, but of course that PC model is worth about 3x what the Blackhawk is... Oh well, there will always be gun envy.

gp911
 
Are you sitting down? Good. You're a communist. I'm sorry to be blunt, but that is the only possible explanation. A real, red-blooded American would enjoy shooting a 1911. You probably don't even go to church, do you heathen? You really should consider a move to Cuba, Venezuela or perhaps China. We don't need any Godless Commies around here.

:p
 
And that, friends, is why everyone who knows about guns will tell you to try before you buy. Whodathunkit?

pax

ps to Eleven Mike -- you still won't do. :D
 
I own a 1911 or 2... that said, I MUCH prefer to shoot my Smith & Wesson 4506 to the 1911's... more fun for me... SO, if that makes one a commie, then I guess I need a plane ticket to Cuba... eh?
 
I've always liked the nice nudge of a 1911 with 230 Gr. ball. It's just right, enough to let you know you shot a gun, not enough to be bothersome.:)
 
pax, you are really close to crossing the line with me. I have the House Un-American Activities Committee and John Birch on speed-dial, so tread carefully, comrade. :mad:
 
I much prefer the recoil of my 1911 in .45 to my CZ 9mm or my Ruger .357. None of them hurt, but the push of the .45 is much more enjoyable than the snap of the 9mm. To each his own.
 
one word, my friend

Harmonics!

This is why the most terrifying gun that I ever shot was a Beretta Model 70 (380). That little thing killed my hand, but my brother (who I sold it to) can shoot it all day. Something about it just HURT.
 
The Blackhawk is a stainless .357 with wood grips, typical factory stuff. The sights are adjustable, but it is pretty much as common as they come. I wish it was an older model, but it shoots nice as-is.

I agree with the folks stating how nice the push of the .45 is. I could tell that it wasn't hard recoil, actually quite pleasant. Like another poster said it is just enough to let you know you're firing a real gun. Too bad it aggravates that nerve in my wrist or I'd own one as we speak...

gp911
 
As for the accusation of communist, you are hereby ordered by John Birch Society Directive 934a to stand down, this was only a test to keep you on your toes, the 1911 is still the Right Hand of JMB in Earthly form. Your tinfoil hat is askew as well, so you are now required to unearth one of your Y2K MREs you buried in your yard and consume it for dinner tonight.

:neener:

-JB911
 
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