I recently purchased my first rim fire rifle today to join the collection of my large centerfires and it just so happens to be a savage arms Mark II fv. That being said, I now need a decent scope and scope mount on a budget. Do you guys have any suggestions?
Good Scope Mount and Scope Combo
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stubbicatt
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I hope I don't sound patronizing, I'm really sincere when I suggest that with rifle scopes you really do get more when you spend more... My suggestion is look at the $1,200 - $2,200 price range, find the features you want in a scope that comes recommended, and then save the shekels necessary to buy something really good. As time goes by, you will probably sell your rifle, but you can always mount your scope on a new rifle, and it will work.
If you buy an "inexpensive" scope now, you will likely be arriving at a compromise, and in the end you will probably not be as happy as if you had waited and bought something excellent. You will sell the "compromise" scope and buy a good one anyways.
I hope this helps.
If you buy an "inexpensive" scope now, you will likely be arriving at a compromise, and in the end you will probably not be as happy as if you had waited and bought something excellent. You will sell the "compromise" scope and buy a good one anyways.
I hope this helps.
The_Armed_Therapist
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Stubbicat, really? It's a rimfire. $1,200 to $2,200 is absolutely ridiculous. I'm glad you got the money to do that. Most don't. Rimfires don't even shoot effectively much further than you can see with the naked eye. Seriously... LOL
allaroundhunter
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How far do you intend to shoot it and for what purpose? (hunting, competition, etc.)?
jstein650
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You did mention - 'on a budget', right. Gotta agree with 'Therapist. You can do VERY well at about 1/10th or less than $2200. I like center split rings for .22 grooved receivers, as they naturally center, where some 'side clamp' types can lead to some parallax and centering problems. Leupold's are good and cheap. I'd look closely at rimfire specific scopes from Leupold, Nikon, and Weaver. There are others, but a quick look at Midway shows a good 14 from $220 (adjustable) to just over a hundred for a fixed power. Just to add, I don't recommend the real cheapy BSA's, Tasco's, and other low dollar models just because it's a .22!
'Ive been looking at a Simmons pro or something like that and it'll mainly be plinking and possible small game hunting in the near future. Being in my late teens, money is semi hard to come by for me and this one will mainly go for range visits when I can go.
AKElroy
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If you have good accuracy potential with that savage, it really needs an adjustable objective to dial out parallax at closer distances. I like the bushnell elite series, either the 3200 or 4200. They are made in Japan, and are extremely high quality for the price. You should find several options in this line for $300 or less. As for rings, I like Weaver Top Moints for either a standard application or the .22 dovetail rail. They are old fashioned, but rock solid and less than $30.
Skylerbone
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Buy a Bushnell 4X for now and save $100 for TPS rings and another $250 for a Leupold rimfire later. That will be a combo to keep that will also last a lifetime.
My father has hunted 3 years with a cheap BSA, my mother 14 years with a Tasco (just replaced with a Nikon) and I just replaced a 10 year old $50 Bushnell AO with a no frills Nikon rimfire. At 30-70 yards for plinking and small game, absolute precision simply isn't critical. Any of the above made dime sized groups at 30 yards with ease from run of the mill rifles and bulk ammo.
My father has hunted 3 years with a cheap BSA, my mother 14 years with a Tasco (just replaced with a Nikon) and I just replaced a 10 year old $50 Bushnell AO with a no frills Nikon rimfire. At 30-70 yards for plinking and small game, absolute precision simply isn't critical. Any of the above made dime sized groups at 30 yards with ease from run of the mill rifles and bulk ammo.
jstein650
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Not that familiar with the 110. Doesn't it come with Weaver bases already? Round receiver? Just saw Haxby's post above. Yes, many Weaver style rings. Just search through Midway or Graf's or any other website. If you get a 1" scope, 1" rings, 30mm scope, 30mm rings. I still like the center split style, but there's a million out there.
OldBrownDog
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The Nikon Prostaff EFR 3-9x40 with adjustable objective is good glass. I have it on my Savage Mk II BV. Gun and scope will turn 1.5 MOA groups at 100 yds with (formerly) cheap .22 if I do my part. Best part? Costs $189.00.
http://www.nikonsportoptics.com/Nikon-Products/Scopes/6734/ProStaff-Target-EFR.html
If fixed power or 2-7x would work, for about $80 more, Leupold has some very nice rimfire scopes.
http://www.leupold.com/scopefinder/
It's (kinda) pricey on your budget, but the EGW rail for the Savage Mk II works very well (I have this too, real good for the money).
http://www.egwguns.com/savage/savage-mark-ii-and-93-picatinny-rail-scope-mount/
Go with EGW Practical rings, EGW rail and Nikon scope and you could be very well setup for about $300.
http://www.egwguns.com/scope-rings/
http://www.nikonsportoptics.com/Nikon-Products/Scopes/6734/ProStaff-Target-EFR.html
If fixed power or 2-7x would work, for about $80 more, Leupold has some very nice rimfire scopes.
http://www.leupold.com/scopefinder/
It's (kinda) pricey on your budget, but the EGW rail for the Savage Mk II works very well (I have this too, real good for the money).
http://www.egwguns.com/savage/savage-mark-ii-and-93-picatinny-rail-scope-mount/
Go with EGW Practical rings, EGW rail and Nikon scope and you could be very well setup for about $300.
http://www.egwguns.com/scope-rings/
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jstein650
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^^^ +1
Goju
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Here is a good reference for scope optical quality, from the Optics Talk Forum. If you can spring for a couple hundred on the scope, look for a Bushnell Elite 4200 series. I think those, and the Sightron SII Big Sky series may be the best bang for the buck. And my advice on best bang for for the buck rings are from Warne. Hope this helps
2009 Riflescope Rating Scale
Leica ER, Swarovski Z6, Zeiss Victory
Kahles C - CL & CSX, Premier Reticle, Schmidt & Bender
Kahles KX, U.S. Optics, Swarovski PH & American Lightweight
Bushnell Elite 6500, Leupold VX-7, Nightforce NXS, IOR Valdada, Vortex Razor
Bushnell Elite 4200, Leupold VX-3, Nikon Monarch & Monarch X, Zeiss Conquest
Leupold Mark 4 VX III & VX-L, Meopta, Nikon Monarch Gold & Titanium, Sightron SIII & S2 Big Sky, Vortex Viper
Burris Black Diamond Signature Select XTR & Euro Diamond, Pentax Lightseeker, Trijicon Accupoint, Weaver Grand Slam
Bushnell Elite 3200, Leupold VX-II, Millet Tactical/Buck Gold, Nikko Stirling, Nikon Buckmaster, Sightron SI & SII, Vortex Crossfire & Diamondback, Super Sniper Fixed
Burris Fullfield II & Timberline, Leupold Rifleman & VX-I, Leatherwood, Mueller, Nikon ProStaff, Simmons
Barska, Sightmark, Swift, Truglo
BSA, Tasco, Yukon
ATN, Leapers, NcStar
2009 Riflescope Rating Scale
Leica ER, Swarovski Z6, Zeiss Victory
Kahles C - CL & CSX, Premier Reticle, Schmidt & Bender
Kahles KX, U.S. Optics, Swarovski PH & American Lightweight
Bushnell Elite 6500, Leupold VX-7, Nightforce NXS, IOR Valdada, Vortex Razor
Bushnell Elite 4200, Leupold VX-3, Nikon Monarch & Monarch X, Zeiss Conquest
Leupold Mark 4 VX III & VX-L, Meopta, Nikon Monarch Gold & Titanium, Sightron SIII & S2 Big Sky, Vortex Viper
Burris Black Diamond Signature Select XTR & Euro Diamond, Pentax Lightseeker, Trijicon Accupoint, Weaver Grand Slam
Bushnell Elite 3200, Leupold VX-II, Millet Tactical/Buck Gold, Nikko Stirling, Nikon Buckmaster, Sightron SI & SII, Vortex Crossfire & Diamondback, Super Sniper Fixed
Burris Fullfield II & Timberline, Leupold Rifleman & VX-I, Leatherwood, Mueller, Nikon ProStaff, Simmons
Barska, Sightmark, Swift, Truglo
BSA, Tasco, Yukon
ATN, Leapers, NcStar
allaroundhunter
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No. The Savage 110 and the Savage mk II are completely different actions.
OldBrownDog
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If you choose to use these bases, take them off and clean under them. Then put a dab of blue or red (if you don't plan on swapping your bases) loctite on the screws and make sure the screws are tightened down firmly, but not too tight or you'll strip the head (ask me how I know not to do that).
Not to push my previous post or anything (I'll happily spend other people's money), but that EGW rail works. It was worth the $....
Here you go:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/774902/bushnell-banner-shotgun-scope-4x-32mm-circle-x-reticle-matte
Never mind what it says about being a shotgun scope. Read the reviews. Almost no one uses it for anything but rifles. I have one and it's great. Low cost, too.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/774902/bushnell-banner-shotgun-scope-4x-32mm-circle-x-reticle-matte
Never mind what it says about being a shotgun scope. Read the reviews. Almost no one uses it for anything but rifles. I have one and it's great. Low cost, too.
Kernel
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Another vote for Burris Z-rings. I like the looks of that fixed power 4x Bushnell at Midway. Sounds perfect for an older .22. I've been looking for an afordable scope, and that might be the ticket. Variable power is not really needed, adds costs and complication, problems with wandering zero. Adjustable objective would be a total waste, and actually makes it harder to enjoy your scope when snap shooting or hunting.
chicharrones
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Shotgun scopes are a good alternative for a rimfire scope when parallax adjustability isn't wanted. I have a Nikon ProStaff 2-7x32 shotgun scope on a .22 WMR. It comes from the factory with a parallax set at 75 yards like many other shotgun scopes do.
They even come with standard duplex reticles so you don't have to settle for a shotgun specific reticle. Unless of course, that is something you want.
The upside is, if you move a shotgun scope from a rimfire up to a centerfire rifle, more than likely it will handle the recoil. Perhaps a true rimfire scope wouldn't.
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