Got one of my papas old rifles today

[thefamcnaj]

My Grandma decided to give me one of my papa's .22 rifles today. I was excited because my papa was my hero. The gun is a Remmington Score master 511 model. Its seen better days, but still nice to have none the less because it was his. My Granny told me he just used it to plink around with down in the fields, cans and what not. I've never owned an old gun before, and I don't know much about it. She told me from the best of her knowledge the gun was produced from the late 30's to the mid 60's. It has a detatchable 6 round mag. I'm trying to determine the age of it and see if it has any value.I'd never sell it because Its going to be fun to plink around with something, that papa used to get the same type joy.
I noticed it does not have a serial number on it. It has patent numbers but not a serial number.
It does have the letters xtt stamped on it on the left of the barrel just in front of the reciever. Any one familiar with this make and model? Also why would the gun not have a serial number on it?

 

[juk]

It was probably made before firearms manufacturers were required to serialize each individual firearm. I'm not an expert on such matters, but I am sure someone will chime in pretty soon with a more solidified answer.

Don't know much about the rifle, but it is always cool to hold my grandads' guns. One passed down an old stevens double barrel 12 ga, and the other has an old Marlin 336 in 30-30. Honestly, those two guns mean the world to me. Neither are fancy or even in mint condition. They were working guns used to put meat in the freezer, and both did the job well. The scratches and bluing wear just goes to remind me of what they stand for and where I come from.

 

[shiftyer1]

I used grandpa's old single shot h&r for doves this year....I wasn't fast enough to get a bunch but I got enough and it was worth it This shotgun used to be my pheasent gun. Sure wish I had pheasent around here.

Take good care of it and if a friend ever offers to clean it for you, politely decline and do it yourself. Trust me on this <<< one

 

[marv]

That is a Remington 511. I have one just like it. Got it for Christmas right after WW II. Gov controlled price was $14. There is a Rem mfg date chart somewhere on the net. Maybe Google can find it.

 

[Tommygunn]

The "XTT" means it was made in December, 1948

Remington Dates of Manufacture

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The following serial number information is for
Remingtion firearms manufactured after 1921

Remingtons manufactured after 1921 have a code located on the left side of the barrel near the frame that identifies the year and month of manufacture. The following letters correspond to the months of the year, for example B=January, L= February and so on:

B - L - A - C - K - P - O - W - D - E - R - X

Barrel Code Location Diagram



Serial Numbers by date (factory record book)


B - Jan L - Feb A - Mar C - Apr K - May P - Jun
O - Jul W - Aug D - Sep E - Oct R - Nov X - Dec




M - 1921 N - 1922 P - 1923 R - 1924 S - 1925
T - 1926 U - 1927 W - 1928 X - 1929 Y - 1930
Z - 1931 A - 1932 B - 1933 C - 1934 D - 1935
E - 1936 F - 1937 G - 1938 H - 1939 J - 1940
K - 1941 L - 1942 MM - 1943 NN - 1944 PP - 1945
RR - 1946 SS - 1947 TT - 1948 UU - 1949 WW - 1950
XX - 1951 YY - 1952 ZZ - 1953 A - 1954 B - 1955
C - 1956 D - 1957 E - 1958 F - 1959 G - 1960
H - 1961 J - 1962 K - 1963 L - 1964 M - 1965
N - 1966 P - 1967 R - 1968 S - 1969 T - 1970
U - 1971 W - 1972 X - 1973 Y - 1974 Z - 1975
I - 1976 O - 1977 Q - 1978 V - 1979 A - 1980
B - 1981 C - 1982 D - 1983 E - 1984 F - 1985
G - 1986 H - 1987 I - 1988 J - 1989 K - 1990
L - 1991 M - 1992 N - 1993 O - 1994 P - 1995
Q - 1996 R - 1997 S - 1998 T - 1999 (*) U - 2000 (*)
V - 2001 (*) W - 2002 X - 2003 Y - 2004 Z - 2005
A - 2006 B - 2007 C - 2008 D - 2009 E - 2010
F - 2011 G - 2012

Guns made before 1968 were not required to have a serial #. I have a Remington 550-1 my father left me that has no serial #. The Gun Control Act of 1968 required serial #s so it changed after that.

 

[ColtPythonElite]

You can go to the Remington Society website and decipher the barrel markings to date your rifle.

 

[thefamcnaj]

The "XTT" means it was made in December, 1948

Thanks a lot tommygun. Thats awsome. I wish this old gun could talk.

 

[Fred_G]

Awesome. Thanks for the picture. I have an old Marlin 336 SC passed down from my Grandfather. It ain't for sale, I just love having it!

Anytime I touch it, I am reminded of his lessons on how to handle guns... That gun is almost haunted, in the best way. The lessons taught with that old 30/30 work well with my newer guns.

 

[BrocLuno]

Cool stuff and good info

 

[rcmodel]

Serial numbers were not required on .22RF rifles & shotguns until the passage of the 1968 Gun Control Act.

rc

 

[Red Tornado]

Excellent rifle. That was my first rifle, also from my Grandpa. It's a well built rimfire that will probably be passed down to your grandkids, if you take care of it. You can shoot 22LR, 22 long, and 22 shorts. The 22 shorts are very quiet, but not as accurate, IME. Normal 22LR will be more accurate than you'd expect. The 5-teens are great shooters.

For all you can ever want to know, join up at rimfirecentral.com. There's a Remington section and all the information you could ever need.

Now get off the computer and go shoot your rifle. It'd make your grandpa proud.
RT

 

[thefamcnaj]

@ red tornado
I'd love to go shoot it. I think I may need to get it checked out by a smithy first. Its in pretty rough shape and has been neglected in the 13 years since papa passed away. The wood and the metal are rough. I'd love to get it refinished and the wood restored and give to my son for his first gun. I'm thinking of sending off the the shooters roost in Texas. I was happy with the work they did on a pistol sent them.

 

[Red Tornado]

Hard to tell from the pic, but it doesn't look too bad. Give it a good cleaning and see if you can get rid of the surface rust. Hopefully the bore is still good. Often, the lube from 22's will keep the bore in great shape even if the rest of the metal is somewhat rusted.

Unless it's seriously neglected, I can't imagine it being unsafe, but it's possible. If it locks up tight, you're probably fine. But if you're uncomfortable making that call, a gunsmith is a fine way to go.

I've got an old 5-Teen service manual and a parts diagram on pdf. They're a little over 5MB but if you want me to send you a copy, PM me your email address and I'll send them out.
Good shooting,
RT