Got Pulled Over Last Night

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Well, it finally happened. I got pulled over for speeding last night:banghead:. As Soon as the young deputy walked up, I announced I was carrying, and where it was. Things were fine, he didn't want to see it, and because I was polite, he cut me a break on the fine:eek:

The only thing I found unusual was that in the middle of the stop he wanted to check that I had my permit because he said I wasn't in the system, which made me happy. I honestly can't recall for sure if I told him that I had a permit. In CO, you can carry concealed in your vehicle without a permit. I just came away from the stop thinking that he might not have been aware of that.

I've said it before. I have nothing to hide and little to fear. Even in a state where I don't have announce, I will for both the officer's safety and my own. Glad (so far) that I haven't been proven wrong.
 
I am not trying to hikack this thread, but because this is in the same vein of something I have been thinking about, I will ask it here. If the Mods want to move it that's fine.

On the off chance that you are pulled over and ID yourself as a CWP holder and have a gun with you, if the police officer asks to see the gun, do you release the clip and eject the one in the chamber before handing it to him?
 
I believe most LEOs would rather empty the gun themselves. I know I would be worried if I pulled over a stranger and they are handling a loaded firearm. Myself I would feel better if the LEO would remove the gun from my holster, that way they know they are in control of the situation at all times.
 
I would ask the officer first. I waited last night for the officer to tell me what he wanted me to do. Be careful handling if you ever need to.
 
On the off chance that you are pulled over and ID yourself as a CWP holder and have a gun with you, if the police officer asks to see the gun, do you release the clip and eject the one in the chamber before handing it to him?
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Do nothing except as directed.
 
And follow very specific instructions, your life will depend on it. For both of you and LEO's safety.

As far as Im concerned, I keep my hands on the wheel until LEO gets to the window. Then we will go from there.
 
Agreed

And for additional peace of mind for the officer, especially at night, turn on your dome light as you keep your hands in sight while you wait for the officer to come to your window. Even though they may have you lit from behind with the spotlight, it helps them see into the areas of your car that are otherwise in the shadows. I had three guns the last time I got pulled over (on the way to the range). When he asked for my license I told him it was in my wallet in my left front pocket, but that I needed to tell him I had a CHL, and that I did in fact have a weapon and told him where. He said that was fine, and go ahead and get the driver's license. Don't remember for sure if I handed him the CHL. I think I did. Anyway, it all worked out fine (except for the ticket). He never asked to see or seemed to care about the guns.

As far as if the officer asks for possession of the gun, at least here in Oregon, if they ask you are required to let them have it for the duration of the stop. Haven't been asked for it, but if I ever am, I will ask for specific instructions as to how they want to go about taking possession, as it is loaded and they may or may not be familiar with the details of how to make safe that particular firearm.
 
The only thing I found unusual was that in the middle of the stop he wanted to check that I had my permit because he said I wasn't in the system, which made me happy. I honestly can't recall for sure if I told him that I had a permit. In CO, you can carry concealed in your vehicle without a permit. I just came away from the stop thinking that he might not have been aware of that.
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About a year ago I was stopped by a deputy in my home county and while I wasn't carrying I still handed my permit with my driver’s license. The officer erroneously told me my permit was no longer good because the issuing sheriff was no longer the sheriff. He even told me it was a good thing I wasn’t carrying since I would have been carrying illegally. This was January 2008 in a southern suburb of Denver. I knew he was wrong, but he was pretty sure of himself even after I asked “are you sure the recent changes to CRS haven’t affected that…” he cut me off and told me I was wrong. I called the county point of contact for CCW the next morning and he not only told me I was right, but he also wanted the officer’s name and badge number so he could call and make sure his knowledge was current so he would no longer be working on bad information.

Point being, not all LEOs know the details with the law and some will go wrong with confidence.
 
It's generally best to not argue law at the side of the road during a traffic stop. It too easily leads to escalation, as could have occurred with Czar's example. One's goal is to continue on down the road. Czar did an excellent followup.
 
I was outside a construction site in the CA Bay area, it was early and a couple local PD's approached me and asked my business in the area. I was not in my vehicle, but told them I was carrying and had a permit, which is rare for that part of CA.

One of the PD's stepped behind me while the other removed my pistol without asking. I was then placed in cuffs and put in the back seat of the cruiser while they made numerous calls.

They were very unhappy they had to let me go and said if it were up to them, I'd be arrested. They unloaded my gun and told me to lock it in my toolbox. I was polite the whole time.
 
They were very unhappy they had to let me go and said if it were up to them, I'd be arrested. They unloaded my gun and told me to lock it in my toolbox.
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Gbran, I hope to H*LL you filed a complaint over that. What a load of crap. One of 1000 reasons I won't go to CA unless DOD requires it of me. That has me fuming right now.

Come to CO, have the darned Cali's have already!:)
 
The only thing I found unusual was that in the middle of the stop he wanted to check that I had my permit because he said I wasn't in the system,
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The Officer was lying to you there is no "system" for you to be in. I'm going to assume that your permit is from El Paso County, Sherrif Maketa doesn't allow his permits to be added to the NCIC system.

ve said it before. I have nothing to hide and little to fear. Even in a state where I don't have announce, I will for both the officer's safety and my own. Glad (so far) that I haven't been proven wrong.
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If you choose to waive your 4th ammendment rights that's on you but I think it's one of the more foolish decisions a person could make. ANYTHING you say to a Police Officer CAN be used against you. NOTHING you say to an Officer can be used to HELP you. Therefore I see no gain in offering ANY information to the police.

Given that CRS 18-12-204 specifically provides that a weapon shall not be considered concealed if it's carried in your vehicle or other means of private conveyence , where is the Officer's justification to know that you are carrying a weapon?

If you're a law-abiding citizen how does it increase the safety of either one of you to interject the fact that you're armed into the situation?
 
Gbran, I hope to H*LL you filed a complaint over that.
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I did not. I sensed that whoever the cops were talking to didn't care for ccw either.

I live in a county 280 miles south that is pretty liberal about ccw issuance. CA ccw's are state permits issued by the counties or some city chiefs. The Bay area is pretty much non issue. I have to work in that area quite often. I won't go there unarmed, but don't want to start a pi$$ing contest with the local agencies.
 
Why were you speeding?

If you don't want to be stopped, obey the law. Then you won't have to start a big discussion on how to respond to the police.

Jim
 
The best thing to do would be to obey the officers instructions. Although I will not give any information that I dont have to give. And the thought of someone else handling my gun just because he has a badge makes me sick.
 
Why were you speeding?

If you don't want to be stopped, obey the law. Then you won't have to start a big discussion on how to respond to the police.
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This isn't helpful, interesting, or warranted. Don't be a smarta**, and I won't have to have a big discussion on why this comment was unnecessary. Holier than thou comments are waste of server space.

Given that CRS 18-12-204 specifically provides that a weapon shall not be considered concealed if it's carried in your vehicle or other means of private conveyence , where is the Officer's justification to know that you are carrying a weapon?
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Rockwell, I can see your point, but I have nothing to hide, and fail to see how informing LEO could be held against me. When my wallet is right next to my pistol, I'm gonna let him know. There is no way I want to surprise him in that way.
 
There is no way I want to surprise him in that way.
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100% in agreement, I handle that by having my wallet in my hand before the Officer gets to my car.

I got pulled over in a little town east of Vail a few years back. I was on my way home from a TKD tournament and as such I was a little bruised up (strike 1).

I wasn't carrying a weapon that day but my wallet and such were in the glove box. When asked to produce said items I told the Officer where they were and that I was going to reach for them now. I'm not sure if he asked me if I had any weapons before or after he stuck his S&W 4006 (beautiful weapon BTW) in my ear. but I decided then and there that I was A.) never going to reach for ANYTHING in front of a Police Officer ever again and B.) that I was never going to mention even the word weapon to an Officer EVER unless specifically asked.

Why were you speeding?
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Truly spoken like someone who's never driven East on State 24 in Colorado
 
I would agree with those who indicated not unloading the firearm. Now, in Georgia, you do not have to give the officer your firearm... though they may not like that. :(
 
If you don't want to be stopped, obey the law.
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Yeah, let's stop with these crazy statements. My last 5 out of 6 interactions with police officers had nothing to do with obeying the law or not. And the 1, I was passing a vehicle but my cruise control had been set moments earlier.

I have had a gun removed by an officer years ago, and I don't think I would allow that to happen again. That is a recipie for disaster that is totally uncalled for and probably signifies a inexperienced officer who is not the person you want removing a loaded firearm from your holster with the muzzle probably spending much of it's time being pointed at you during the process.

I've had an officer request that I unload a firearm during the stop. I've also unloaded a firearm when an officer asked for my firearm and it pissed him off but I told him I wasn't going to hand him a firearm that he might not have had experience with and was loaded.

Sooooooooooooooooooooooo..............................I don't know, but they don't remove my firearm. That's my line in the sand anymore.
 
I was involved in a traffic accident in 1987 while delivering pizzas. I had a .357 Magnum in my glovebox, within the limits of Florida law. The female officer investigating the accident, which was the other driver's fault, asked as she peeked into my truck "Where's your gun"? I answered by giving her its location, and she then asked if she could unload it. I suggested she put the rounds in the ashtray, which she did. She then returned it to the glovebox, and not another word was said.
I got to know her when I became a cop later that year in the bordering town, but never did get around to asking how she knew I had a piece with me that day. Guess, in the LE community, it must have been common knowledge that pizza guys carry.
I did not have a carry license back then, by the way.
 
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