Governor Arnold vetoed AB2714 & SB 59

[ryoushi]

I have to tell you the NRA is working hard in California. I have been very hard on them in the past, but watching all this go down this year opened my eyes to the importance of the NRA especially in California.

 

[silliman89]

ArmedBear -- #11

Personally, I'd just as soon have OC and SD counties join with the mountain counties and break off from the rest of the state.

We could have Red Cal and Blue Cal. Let the moonbats pay for their own BS.

Is anyone talking about this sort of thing? I've seriously always wondered why California hasn't split into two or more states by now.

 

[ArmedBear]

what about Tom McClintock?? He should have been the GOP picked canidate not Mr Hollywood.

I like Tom McClintock. I don't know him personally; I know people who do.

However, Tom McClintock made a glaring political error in the last gubernatorial election. He made a big deal about being "the only pro-life candidate."

That was dumb, for two reasons:

1. California's governor has little say in the matter.
2. California is not a pro-life state. Democrats are often pseudo-hippie, committed hedonists, and Republicans are often suburban parents, who want their teenage daughters to be able to abort. Like it or not, that's who the voters are.

Does that mean I think he should deny his personal convictions? No. I just don't think he should have made that a big point of his campaign, since it really wasn't something that interested a lot of Californians, and it had nothing to do with the election, or the reasons for the recall.

Personally, I am laissez-faire. Like Boston T. Party and the late Harry Browne, I think that the government needs to stay out of issues like abortion. Interestingly, both men are/were personally against abortion, but politically laissez-faire. So McClintock's statement didn't impress me. I didn't care. He should have spent the time he spent at the debate telling me about something I wanted to know. I think many other Californians felt the same way.

The California GOP would rather win than lose.

Remember: California Republicans often lean libertarian, both fiscally and socially. This is not the "heartland." Tom McClintock works with Libertarians (big L), so he's not far from that. That's why presenting himself as "the only pro-life candidate" in California showed a lack of political savvy: he really gave the wrong impression of himself to many.

 

[riverdog]

The 50 ban was inevitable - the 50 is an unsalvageable PR disaster. Get over it and do the smart thing.

Agree. Everytime a gun bill comes up someone starts talking about Arnold and the .50 Ban. I don't like bans much, but how many votes would Arnold have lost from the middle if had vetoed the .50 ban instead of signing? Do you want Angelides to take those votes?

Right now Arnold is the best we have in Sacramento.

 

[CAnnoneer]

Is anyone talking about this sort of thing? I've seriously always wondered why California hasn't split into two or more states by now.

Hehehehe. And which would those be? People's Confederated Republic of San Francisco & Berkeley, on the one hand, and ALL THE REST OF US on the other? I predict a fiscal implosion for the PCRSFB.

No, the commie trick is to get everybody else to work to pay for the commie's paradise. A lazy hungry parasite needs a host.

 

[Zundfolge]

what about Tom McClintock?? He should have been the GOP picked canidate not Mr Hollywood.

And he'd have lost and California would have a governor who would have just signed the two bills Arnold vetoed.

The most principled candidate in the world isn't worth anything if he's not going to actually get elected ... hell Ron Paul ran for President once ... great guy and would be a great president but the only way he's getting into the White House is if he takes one of the guided tours.

 

[usmarine0352_2005]

Go ARNOLD. Always like him.