Granddaughter want to shoot

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cdbeaver

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My son has joint custody of his kids (four girls) and I had the pleasure today of treating them to Easter dinner at a nice restaurant.

During our rambling conversations, my son mentioned that he had taken one of the girls (the 11-year-old) to our river cabin yesterday and had a shooting session with her.

My boy (going on 45) is sensible enough to teach his kids gun safety. He had the Winchester Model 62 trombone action .22 LR that I bought in 1954 and gave to him a year or so ago. "Madeline loved it," he said, and wants to go out again, maybe with a different gun. She couldn't get enough shooting."

I have a lot more spare time than he does. I firmly believe that this week I'm going to go buy a Ruger 10/22 of some kind and when she comes back up to visit him, I'm going to let her have her fill of shooting it. Already have a couple of handi-paks of cartridges sitting on the shelf.

Teaching her the difference between a slide action and a semi-automatic should fall perfectly into indoctrinating kids in the different types of firearms and their safe operations.

If that shooting inoculation works, I think my Ruger GP100 with .38 special loads may be next. God, I love it.
 
I can't recommend semis for kiddies. Bolt, pump or lever guns are better as they teach them shot placement. Don't want to have a kid learn spray 'n pray. I tried teaching one youth how to shoot and that was all that he would do. Afterwards, it was strictly slow guns for me when it came to instructing kids.
 
Me too. Bought my son a 10/22 when he was that age, all he wanted to do with it was empty the mag as quick as possible; not hitting much of anything. When he tired of reloading the mag he would pick up one of my bolt actions and shoot single-shot, his marksmanship improved greatly.
 
Good point, both of you.

I have a little H&R Model 865 Plainsman clip-fed bolt action that I keep for ground squirrel control that might be just the ticket for Shooting Qualification 102.

I'm still going to buy the stainless Ruger 10/22 and keep it for myself. No one ever said you had to give up everything for grandkids.

Now I have to find a copy of the four rules of gun handling so I can make a print-out and have her memorize them.
 
cdbeaver .. a Sngle Six Ruger would make a great training tool .. even if loading and unloading a bit slow. Here are Jeff Cooper's four rules in full for you ....

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Jeff Cooper's Rules of Gun Safety



RULE I: ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

RULE II: NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO DESTROY

RULE III: KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

RULE IV: BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET





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RULE I: ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

There are no exceptions. Do not pretend that this is true. Some people and organizations take this rule and weaken it;e.g. "Treat all guns as if they were loaded." Unfortunately, the "as if" compromises the directness of the statement by implying that they are unloaded, but we will treat them as though they are loaded. No good! Safety rules must be worded forcefully so that they are never treated lightly or reduced to partial compliance.

All guns are always loaded - period!

This must be your mind-set. If someone hands you a firearm and says, "Don't worry, it's not loaded," you do not dare believe him. You need not be impolite, but check it yourself. Remember, there are no accidents, only negligent acts. Check it. Do not let yourself fall prey to a situation where you might feel compelled to squeal, "I didn't know it was loaded!"



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RULE II: NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO DESTROY

Conspicuously and continuously violated, especially with pistols, Rule II applies whether you are involved in range practice, daily carry, or examination. If the weapon is assembled and in someone's hands, it is capable of being discharged. A firearm holstered properly, lying on a table, or placed in a scabbard is of no danger to anyone. Only when handled is there a need for concern. This rule applies to fighting as well as to daily handling. If you are not willing to take a human life, do not cover a person with the muzzle. This rule also applies to your own person. Do not allow the muzzle to cover your extremities, e.g. using both hands to reholster the pistol. This practice is unsound, both procedurally and tactically. You may need a free hand for something important. Proper holster design should provide for one-handed holstering, so avoid holsters which collapse after withdrawing the pistol. (Note: It is dangerous to push the muzzle against the inside edge of the holster nearest the body to "open" it since this results in your pointing the pistol at your midsection.) Dry-practice in the home is a worthwhile habit and it will result in more deeply programmed reflexes. Most of the reflexes involved in the Modern Technique do not require that a shot be fired. Particular procedures for dry-firing in the home will be covered later. Let it suffice for now that you do not dry-fire using a "target" that you wish not to see destroyed. (Recall RULE I as well.)





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Rule III: KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

Rule III is violated most anytime the uneducated person handles a firearm. Whether on TV, in the theaters, or at the range, people seem fascinated with having their finger on the trigger. Never stand or walk around with your finger on the trigger. It is unprofessional, dangerous, and, perhaps most damaging to the psyche, it is klutzy looking. Never fire a shot unless the sights are superimposed on the target and you have made a conscious decision to fire. Firing an unaligned pistol in a fight gains nothing. If you believe that the defensive pistol is only an intimidation tool - not something to be used - carry blanks, or better yet, reevaluate having one around. If you are going to launch a projectile, it had best be directed purposely. Danger abounds if you allow your finger to dawdle inside the trigger guard. As soon as the sights leave the target, the trigger-finger leaves the trigger and straightens alongside the frame. Since the hand normally prefers to work as a unit - as in grasping - separating the function of the trigger-finger from the rest of the hand takes effort. The five-finger grasp is a deeply programmed reflex. Under sufficient stress, and with the finger already placed on the trigger, an unexpected movement, misstep or surprise could result in a negligent discharge. Speed cannot be gained from such a premature placement of the trigger-finger. Bringing the sights to bear on the target, whether from the holster or the Guard Position, takes more time than that required for moving the trigger finger an inch or so to the trigger.





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RULE IV: BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET

Know what it is, what is in line with it, and what is behind it. Never shoot at anything you have not positively identified. Be aware of your surroundings, whether on the range or in a fight. Do not assume anything. Know what you are doing.



SUMMARY:

Make these rules a part of your character. Never compromise them. Improper gunhandling results from ignorance and improper role modeling, such as handling your gun like your favorite actor does. Education can cure this. You can make a difference by following these gunhandling rules and insisting that those around you do the same. Set the example. Who knows what tragedies you, or someone you influence, may prevent?
 
I always kept a copy of the Four Rules in my glove box. That way if one of my Son's friends who had never gone shooting with us before could have it memorized before we got to the range.
"There will be a test". :D
 
I can't recommend semis for kiddies. Bolt, pump or lever guns are better as they teach them shot placement. Don't want to have a kid learn spray 'n pray.

You can always buy an additional mag or two and load one round in each as they shoot. (This goes for any semi.)

Like you I had purchased a few guns strictly for teaching my nieces and nephews. These include a Marlin 15YN (I would choose a CZ-452 Scout if I had to do it over again), a Ruger 10/22, and a Walther P-22 (for their small hands).

And, I have printed out a few credit card sized lists of the Four Rules and laminated them to display and give out.
 
i was talking with this older gentleman at the range saturday, he had his son with him, early teens. kids second time out shooting, they had a single shot .22 that had been in the family for a long time, and a ruger bolt.

the young-un was already a good shot, getting good hits from both seated bench and standing offhand. but the biggest smile on his face was getting hits on a softball i brought and set out at 50 yards, with open sights on that single shot.
 
Agree on bolt or single shot for training kids.

When I was a kid I learned on a single shot but as soon as I saved up enough money I bought my own semi-auto. I had to buy my own ammo from my allowance. After a huge drop in my skill level and $$ I sold the semi and bought my own single shot.:D

I wish I had the semi back . I'm a lot more disiplined with my shooting now. No really I am. Honest.

I just bought a used single shot just like the one I learned on for my grandkids when the time comes. Ain't it fun!
 
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