"Grandpa, tell me 'bout the good ol' days"

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ah, the days you could beat your wife and children, women couldn't vote, interracial marriage was against the law, homosexual people had no rights, women had to pay for the military but couldn't join, the days when women couldn't get birth control without signed consent from their husband, the days when college was only for the wealthy and male, the days ...those "good ol' days?"

Always someone will post the above, something seen in a movie or read in a left wing blog. The facts are women in the "old" days were treated with more respect then today. Many minorities are worse off today then the old days, have we made improvements, for sure, but in the bargain we lost a lot.

I carried my sears 22 bolt though my little town at age 10 stop at the local filling station for a 5 cent coke and a box of 22lr, 39 cents, which I normally
earned by mowing lawns or picking up "pop" bottles along the road. After the coke load up the 22 walk to the edge of town for target practice, city cop wave at me as I moved along the street.

Boys in school played cowboy and indian at recess using wooden guns or fingers (never suspended) on bus ride home talk of squirrel hunting previous weekend brought noises of boom/bang, bus driver looks up in rear view mirror and smiles.

First day of deer season in high school was a day off, win 94's in pickup back glass was common in school lot. Never heard a kid talk of killing anyone or doing harm worse may have been a few road signs with holes.

Yep, we've improved in some ways,others we've lost.
 
We can always say these things about then and now; fact is there are always upsides and downsides to any times. Then it was discrimination, now it is political correctness - take your pick (there many other examples of course, but we digress). The trick is what we all have done, do now, or will do with "our times" because we can never go back.
 
What worries me is what I'll be telling my grandkids about the current 'good ol' days'.
Why, there used to be three or four gun stores around here, and you could just walk right in and buy a rifle. All you had to do was pass an instant background check!
That may well seem just as shockingly lenient to them as a barrel of Tommy guns in a hardware store seems to us.

I hate to think what the laws will be like 30, 40, 50 years from now :(
 
fact is there are always upsides and downsides to any times.

Yessir.

I remember when...

Bread was 15 cents a loaf and gas was 22 cents a gallon...but my father was makin' about $2.50 an hour as a tool and die maker, and that was only because he landed a job with Western Electric which later became AT&T.

There were separate restrooms for "Colored" and they had to sit in the back of the bus.
 
Well cheap bread and cheap gas were certainly good things. Low wages were the norm then. First job I ever had paid 75 cents an hour. Separate restrooms and sitting in the back of the bus for blacks......well this is THR so I won't say what I think about that. I do remember driving across Mississippi in 1961 and seeing the burned-out hulks of busses on the side of the highway, That's not what America is supposed to be about.

And now we return to the topic of guns.

I remember buying Carcano rifles from a barrel at K-Mart too. The first long gun I bought was an 1878 Swiss Vetterli from a pawn shop for $9. I had to put it in lay-away and pay it out as I earned the money on my paper route. I think I was about 14 at the time. I ordered several boxes of ammo from The Old Western Scrounger I think, and they arrived by Railway Express. My mother had to drive me down to Union Station to pick it up. Makes UPS real nice today, delivered to my door.

I, too, ordered a Jungle Carbine from Klein's in Chicago. I also remember taking a trip to Alexandria VA about 1964 or 65 and buying boxes of .303 British incendiary ammo out of a barge tied up behind Hunter's Lodge on the docks. I think it was about 4-5 cents a round by the case.
 
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And those were bad things?
This is why it is so important to indicate which post you're referring to, specifically, when you reply.

As it stands, your post appears to refer most directly to 1911Tuner's reminiscence of how ...

There were separate restrooms for "Colored" and they had to sit in the back of the bus.

That makes it appear we've been joined by a semi-closeted racist, or (these days more likely...hopefully) someone looking to stir up off-topic trouble with their addled brand of humor. And of course, either of those would be grounds for immediate parting from our ranks.

So, please, indicate for us to which post you were responding.
 
what I always heard was buying an SKS for $70 or Mausers for way cheap.

Actually that wasnt that long ago... up until the AWB of 1994 they could be had cheaply.
 
I remember 22LR in matchboxes for $.99 a hundred. I remember that Sears and K-Mart and Western Auto sold guns in the store and in the catalogs. I remember going Christmas shopping at the mall and the sporting goods stores had all these funny machines with round things and handles that said "Lee" on them and I thought that they were really complicated. I used to collect stamps and I could get all the stamp collecting stuff at the Woolworths. People had revolvers but they were mostly hidden. People had shotguns for hunting and 22s for fun. I remember at Boy Scout Camp we had single-shot 22s, some of them were bolt action magazine fed but you were only allowed to put one cartridge in at a time...if the range officer knew you were OK he would let you load the magazine. You got ten rounds of 22LR stuck in a piece of 2x4 with ten holes drilled in it. That cost a dollar and you had to bring back the piece of wood and the ten empties to get more. Every week we had a watermelon shoot. The best scout troop and patrol's scores got a cold watermelon.

In movies guns were a surprise not a common occurrance. Semi-autos were owned by the truly serious gun people, everyone else had revolvers. Black rifles like ARs and AKs were only owned by the crazy survivalist militia whackjobs and nobody needed more than a levergun or a bolt action hunting rifle.

You could go to the gunshows and find barrels of mausers, six for $100, mix and match, all varieties. Crates of surplus ammo, old leather and canvas gear. Surplus stores sold actual surplus and not cheap crap made in China to simulate surplus.

We could be outside playing cops n robbers or cowboys n indians or americans vs japs and run around taking cover behind trees or hedges or mailboxes and nobody panicked, we shot off roll caps in our cap guns, or by hitting the whole roll with a rock.

When the cop cars would go up the street we would jump out and ambush them with our toy guns, and the cops would often play along like they were surprised and shoot back with their 'finger guns'....some cops would give us plastic badges or candy and always tell us to be careful not to get too close to the street.

I took my shooting merit badge in Boy Scouts...I remember the Boy Scout meeting at our neighborhood elementary school, the scoutmasters and dads all brought out their guns, we had blankets on tables in the school cafeteria and there were row after row of different rifles, shotguns, pistols, and different kinds of ammunition....all <gasp> IN THE SCHOOL of all places. And nobody got shot or grew up to be evil (I think). We learned knife, hatchet and axe skills, how to build fires and we all carried matches and sharp knives and nobody got stabbed or set on fire or the Scoutmaster or Patrol Leaders would cut a corner off your Totin' Chip.

We played in everybody's yards and rode our bikes everywhere and left them where we dropped them, and nobody stole them. We could go to the gas station and pump air in the bike tires for free and often score a free Coke for all of us to share if the right attendant was working. We had the good firecrackers, M80s and cherrybombs and bottle rockets that actually blew up, not those lame old smoke balls and worms and fizzers they have now. We had minibikes and gocarts and sometimes Dad would give us a sip of beer.

We treated people with respect and said "Yes Sir" and "No Ma'am" and we would hold the door for people. We would gather up pop bottles for the dime deposit and that would buy a pack of baseball cards with that hard old flavorless gum inside. First it was pinball, and then when video games came out we swarmed over the Asteroids and Centipede and Donkey Kong machines and cut grass and raked leaves or saved milk money to get quarters to throw in the machines.

Saturday mornings there were cartoons on TV, real good funny ones where anvils fell on peoples' heads and a swarm of birds would fly around, and if a hammer was smashed on their hand it would swell up like a balloon, and if a pretty girl walked by the character's heart would start pounding out of their chest and wolf whistle. That stupid duck would get his pronouns wrong and get his beak blasted off with the shotgun and then just pick it up and put it back on and the space alien would try to blow up the Earth to get a better view of Venus.

We mostly all turned out OK, and I can't recall anyone ever getting prescribed Ritalin or anti depressants or clinical psychology for our violent tendancies. People got in fights, people did stupid stuff, and things worked out.
 
what I always heard was buying an SKS for $70 or Mausers for way cheap.

About 7 to 8 years ago I got my SKS for $69. Most other Milsurplus rifles were in the 100 to 120 range (except american ones). That was the last great flood of mil-surplus to come into the country. 8mm and 7.62x54r was 5 cents a round or less. 7.62x39 was $120 per thousand. I think the biggest problem in prices is commodities have jumped so high.
 
I'm positive that we can make our days right now even better. More people than ever understand the 2nd amendment. Just 2 or 3 months ago nearly all proposed federal gun control legislation failed, in the senate of all places.

If this were anytime from the 30s to as recent as the 90s, there would have been a slim chance of stopping it, at least I think.

Does anyone think Wal-Mart will ever start carrying handguns again, in some locations?
 
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A very wise man once said: "Those who pine for the long ago, should remember the outhouse at forty below!"

Truer words were never spoken! That said, my 28 year old Grandaughter asked me to write down some of the experiences I had growing up. Took me a year to finish and I had several copies made. Along with family history/experiences, I tried to impart my love for guns, real freedom, and the danger of losing what we have. What really surprised me was that both my boys (hunters all) and my three step kids and three step Grandchildern (non hunters) asked for copies. I have put aside a copy for my Great Grandson (1 YO) as well.
 
Heck, I can remember gun shows in the early 60's where it was not uncommon to see machine guns for sale on the tables. Back then, no one misused machine guns, there were a lot of war trophy bring-backs, and there just wasn't a lot of interest in them. We bought Thompsons for around $100, and a .50 cal Browning might bring $250 if it was in especially nice condition.

Machine guns have been tightly regulated since 1934. You couldn't legally sell one to Joe Schmuck without the proper paperwork being filed, fees paid, etc, even in the 60's.
 
Machine guns have been tightly regulated since 1934. You couldn't legally sell one to Joe Schmuck without the proper paperwork being filed, fees paid, etc, even in the 60's.
True, but the registry was open and the supply wasn't fixed as it is now. Plus the pool of potential buyers was smaller and ATF wasn't so stringent on Deactivated War Trophies (DEWATs). At one time, a machine gun with the barrel plugged or bolt welded shut was not considered a firearm (like BP guns are today) and freely sold and traded sans NFA restrictions. The GCA changed that and required all NFA items, even deactivated ones, be registered and taxed.


Once a friend of my father showed me a Thompson SMG parts kit he had purchased. It was a whole SBR style gun torched in half at the bolt. He explained that it was illegal to even attempt to put it back together and make it look like a whole gun again. Made me sad even though I didn't understand it then.
 
ah, the days you could beat your wife and children, women couldn't vote, interracial marriage was against the law, homosexual people had no rights, women had to pay for the military but couldn't join, the days when women couldn't get birth control without signed consent from their husband, the days when college was only for the wealthy and male, the days ...those "good ol' days?"

good move on putting your statement in quotes.

Income equality was better in those days though, when lots of labor was unionized.
yes we have really advanced from those horrible old days. cities destroyed turned into third world sewers families ruined along with schools, music, lazy kids ,overrun with 100 million 3rd world peasants, manufacturing gone, gay unions, aids, police state erected around us with tapping of all communication. but I guess if coloreds don't have to sit in the back of the bus so they can harass you better it was worth it.
 
Surplus stores sold actual surplus and not cheap crap made in China to simulate surplus.

The local Army&Navy store was where we went shopping in the 70's as you could get stuff from WWII and up through Nam.

I always wanted a pair of Mickey Mouse boots for winter wear but couldn't afford them so I'd get the cheap green boots with yellow lining and laces and my feet would be cold all winter.
 
Yep. Old Mausers and Springfields could be had for $12-$20 back then. And the average worker probably made $1 an hour.

After the Civil War, the U.S. government sold surplus Colt revolving rifles for $0.55 each. Anybody think those were the good ol days?

I'll stay right here in these bad ol days, thank you very much.
 
yea and no one collected disability either. without all the disability being collected I think the country might collapse
 
it is amazing that we have to be politically correct here when it is those type of people that shoved that down our throats are the ones that hate people with guns , hate freedom and want people like that eliminated. so we are aiding them
 
Machine guns have been tightly regulated since 1934. You couldn't legally sell one to Joe Schmuck without the proper paperwork being filed, fees paid, etc, even in the 60's.

Quite true, nevertheless they were often seen in gun shows in the early 60's, both live guns and dewats That's where I accumulated most of the collection of almost 20 guns I had in 1968 and registered in the amnesty. The fact that they were not legal did not keep folks from selling adult beverages in the 30's, did it? The police usually just looked the other way unless you were doing some harm or were engaged in other bad activities.

Now after '68 the whole game changed. The registry was closed, and BATF began real enforcement of the laws. Prior to about 1964 or so, the local police would come to see me and trade guns fairly often. I acquired a beautiful 1921 Colt Thompson from a state trooper in 1965, swapped for another machine gun. We both registered those guns during the amnesty.

Evan price, I remember those things too. Truly good days.
 
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"Those who pine for the long ago, should remember the outhouse at forty below!"

That aint no lie.

or when your car broke down, cause they all did back then, you were hitchhiking or hiking to the nearest service station/home.

Where it took 5 minutes to dial a phone number. dont even think of miss-dialing... :banghead:

When you were actually really excited when Fox started broadcasting. You then had 4 stations after dialing in UHF for the better part of a day.

:evil:
 
And the funny thing is.... 50 years from now when i can tell my kids that the first gun I bought was a ruger 10/22 in 2010... Lord it was only 225 dollars then... And the kids will say "How many yen is that gran' pappy!?!??"
 
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