Grudges....

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Corporate greed is the one common denominator in this equation. The bean-counters are at the helm and the 'bottom line' is the driving factor, while quality control goes to hell in a hand basket! To quote Pogo.."We have met the enemy,,and He is US".

Do you realize that there are virtually NO US dress shirt manufacturers in the country, none, nada, zilch..! Hathaway was the last and it bit the dust in the mid 90's. The demise of textile industry (the mainstay in the south) was due to attempting to get by with 50 year-old technology while third-world countrys got on board with cutting edge tecnology. The same is true of the steel industry. If a country like Japan which has NO iron ore resources of her own can import US ore, refine and process it there, then turn around and ship it BACK to the US and STILL sell it at a profit.....well WHAT's wrong with this picture?? :eek:

Did you realize that General Motors announced in 2003 that they had to tack on an average additional $1400.00 to the price of every vehicle just to offset the cost of union bennefits in order to make a proffit?? Wonder what that that figure is now?? Yet virtually every major foreign auto maker has taken up residence here in the US manufacturing cars that from a quality/price-point put us vehicles to shame. And don't just take my word on this, as a cursory glance at Consumer Digest will bear this out. Toyota, and Honda has consistently been No.1 in ALL categories for the last 25 yrs.

Let's look at the firearms industry...Winchester is but a memory due in large part to Pi$$-poor management. Then there is Remington. The quality of " Big Green" today vs. thirty years ago is dismal. The fit, finnish and accuracy of my circa '69 Mod 700 is heads above it's modern counterpart, absolutely NO comparison. Just look at the rimfires this once great company has perpertrated on the US consumer over the last 30 years ie: Mod 522 Viper,
the Mod 597, and most recently the Mod. 504 (with the former two being their answer to the Pinto and Vega!!.) As a rabid rimfire fan I cannot begin to recall the number of horror stories about the dismal accuracy of the 504 from their owners. Most bit the bullet (pun intended) and sold at a loss in favor of CZ and/or Anschutz. Yet a few companies like Marlin, and Savage are producing ACCURATE rifles at a price-point that remains competetive ie; Savage series 93's, Mod 10, and 12, and the Marlin 17VS, 917VS. Granted the Savage and Marlin are not 'pretty' rifles but 'pretty' dosn't put meat on the table.
Case in point: After much homework (read wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth :banghead: ) about a new varmint rifle, I opted for a Savage 12BVSS .223. and haven't looked back. Even former confirmed Remmy fans (like myself)
said (almost to the man) said "get the Savage you won't regret it"..... The first trip to the range confirmed my choice. After zeroing @ 100, the first 4 of 5 groups recorded were in the low to mid 5's with Black Hills 55 grn'ers.while a friend was struggling with a year-old Sendero w/ hand loads trying to break the 1 5/8" mark.

I say all this to make a point; I believe in the " buy American" theory to a point. All things considered (I F) the quality is there the nod will certainly go to the US product. But I will not 'Blindly' do so if a better non-domestic product is available for at a competative price and for this I make no appologies. Sadly ours has become a nation of services, information and technology, rather than one of "goods". And to those who insist they will only buy American I submit but one recourse: Sell your Japanese TV, VCR, Clock-radio,and Stereo, your Taiwanese kitchen appliances, and by all means, type a cancellation notice to your Internet Service Provider on your Phillipine-made keyboard while you search for a non-Korean assembled monitor/processor....
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Ron
 
Let us not forget the perfectly legal sell outs that Clinton approved while in office of selling an entire Raytheon Tomahawk cruise missile factory to the Chinese intact to give them a huge jump in CM technology. Or the satellite technology transfers. Or the transfers of mineral assets from the department of interior to a certain canadian mining firm. Or the ITT illegal sell out of night vision GEN III technology to just about everywhere.... or you get the idea....

The sell outs are mostly more legal now... But if you want to ban everyone that did it than you will soon find the truth is that

This country has always had robber barons from the time of the railroads when the government transfered millions of acres of land to the railroads free of charge and tax IOT get the railroad built. It does seem we are in a time period of bigger greed than normal; read Enron, Worldcom etc... but they have been with us all along. This BABY boomer generation just kills me with their selling out on just about every single principle they have ever had for more comfort and being all about #1. And now that they have been running this country for the last 14 years we are really starting to see the fruits of their (ill)labor. I wonder what is going to happen next? I wonder who will be left to buy back this country that took 230 years to build and 20 to sell to Europe, China and Japan?
 
Ahh, grudges! The one thing in life that I do extremely well.

I have a pretty long list of businesses I refuse to give my money too. My top would be the American auto industries. I've had a sworn lifelong boycott on American vehicles since the early '80's. The reasons are many and long, so I'll save the discussion and ensuing flame war it always starts.

It pains me to no end knowing I'll probably end up having to buy one in the near future though, as there are no imports making a diesel pickup that fits my needs.
 
Plink - Dodge makes a fair to middling Diesel pick-up that you can get with a good Cummins disel engine. As you know Dodge trucks are made in Mexico and the company is no longer American either.
 
You would have to have had a 100% raise just to keep up to others. The reason for our Dollars decline can be seen in direct corelation with our DEBT. DEBT gained by a war that is doing nothing for our economy, unless you're an investor incompanies such as (OSK) OshKosh Truck, (PCP) Precision Castparts, (HAL) Haliburton and others involved in the "military industrial complex", 50 years ago we were warned by President Dwight D. Eisenhower our last great military leader.
Look at the numbers. The budget deficits aren't any higher today than they were before the war. I think they are actually lower. Govt revenue has been through the roof.

Isn't it interesting how our govt has done its best to support international trade, but does very little to make it easier on domestic businesses. All those politicians telling you they support the little guy are liars. To complicated though. Hating corporations is easier.
 
I don't see conspiracy in the "war on the middle-class." I see a culture where greed is completely out of control and too many people are focussed on the short picture at the expense of the long one.
 
Look at the numbers. The budget deficits aren't any higher today than they were before the war. I think they are actually lower. Govt revenue has been through the roof.

Sorry to burst your bubble but...WE had a SURPLUS before Bush was elected, now we have a DEFICIT. I looked at the numbers. They're scary. Can you say inflation? Because of the dollar's decline against EVERY major and some minor currencies in the world. CNBC reported this a few hours ago.

You want numbers? here are some that are tough to swalow:

put $4,000 into an IRA every year for 30 years and here is what you have:

Net Contributiuon, Total tax deductions, Total Accumulation, Net Income
IRA $4,000, $39,000, $444,617, $14,820

ROTH IRA $4,000, $0, $444,617, $22,230

This is based on historical average of 8.9% 1.4% management fee's & Expenses, withdrawl rate of 5%.

At current inflation your money has half the buying power in 20 years. Can you live off of this?

even if you put the maximum into a 401k you are living in the poor house. Retirement is a fantasy.

Yes you would have to save 100% of your income to live the same lifestyle in retirement.

Income = 100%
Fed Taxes - 30% = 70%
State taxes - 6% = 64%
Rent/Mortgage - 20% = 44%
Food/Clothing - 15% = 29%
Insurance Car/home/life/health - 10% = 19%
Entertainment - 10% = 9%

It's IMPOSSIBLE to save for retirement on an income of less than $100,000. Based on this example if you saved 5% in an 401K and 4% into a Roth IRA you would double the dolars above and still be living in poverty in 20 years based on inflation. Not to mention you this shows no entertainment of vacations. Average US residents save a negative 1% of their income and are heavily in debt.

While our children & Grandchildren are paying off the debe and as family size and the number of workers supporting the baby boomers shrinks we are going to experience the economic theory of Diminishing Returns and will not be able to support our citizenty. there wiol be a few rich and many more poor. and If you're under 45 and hoping for Social Security...Ha HA ...Forget it. NO money... Can't pay it, as a matter of fact what country will buy our bonds to support our spending ways? no one and if they do they will expect an interest rate comensurate to the risk of an aging debt loaded economy. INFLATION. Can you say BRAZIL?
 
Sorry to burst your bubble but...WE had a SURPLUS before Bush was elected, now we have a DEFICIT.

Gotta throw this hat into the ring. We weren't at war before Bush was elected, now we are after the towers fell in NYC, the Pentagon burned in VA, and a plane went down due to the efforts of brave citizens in PA. Granted, a lot of that money has been pork, but war's aren't cheap.
 
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