Guess What I Found In The Alley

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Lats night as I took out the trash at about 10:30 after the news, I was surprised by 2 hispanic youths coming down the alley. Fortunately I had my Kahr MK9 in my pocket as always and I asked them what they were doing in the alley at that time of night, since I know everyone up and down the alley and they didn't belong there. They both made some remark about cutting thru the alley on their way home and kept walking. But after having my car broken into and looseing all my computer tools I'd gathered over the last 35yrs I installed a motion sensor light with video. Called 911 and reported 2 suspicious teens in the alley but haven't heard anything back from the HOA. Everyone needs to keep theirs eyes open to their surroundings and do what they can to help curb crime.
 
He had a gun in his pocket, which comforted him as he initiated what could have been a dangerous situation. If things had gone south, it would have appeared in the police report, possibly on a list of personal effects at the coroner's or at a trauma unit.

Best thing to do is just smile, nod, and make sure that they know that you know, so that they know, and they go on and find someplace where nobody knows...
 
nice bogie. I dont know if the OP curbed crime in this instance but at least he was ready for it. He caused no harm and was ready to see that the youths caused no harm on his watch. Nobody was upset, nobody was injured. +1 for neighbors who care what goes on in the alley.
 
What really got me to thinking about what happened was the fact that my daughter had just come home about 10mins. earlier. If they would have caught her as she was coming into the garage it could have gotten ugly. Altho she carries a .380 in the car I'm not sure with 2 of them if she would have had enough time to react.
 
Did they actually do anything wrong, or were ther just cutting through the alley on their way home? What exactly made you so concerned about these two guys? Was it that they were in an alley? That they were hispanic? Were they dressed like thugs or gangbangers? Did they smell of rotting flesh and rant on and on about brains?

I'm just not sure why you called the cops on them. It sounds like they were just passing through.

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What really got me to thinking about what happened was the fact that my daughter had just come home about 10mins. earlier. If they would have caught her as she was coming into the garage it could have gotten ugly. Altho she carries a .380 in the car I'm not sure with 2 of them if she would have had enough time to react
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If they had attacked you, you might not have been able to get to your gun either. It sounds like you were very close(in an alley.) and they could have tackled you. Grappling with 2 opponents is a very bad situation, much worse than say boxing with 2 opponents.
 
Did they actually do anything wrong, or were ther just cutting through the alley on their way home? What exactly made you so concerned about these two guys? Was it that they were in an alley? That they were hispanic? Were they dressed like thugs or gangbangers? Did they smell of rotting flesh and rant on and on about brains?

I'm just not sure why you called the cops on them. It sounds like they were just passing through.

Please. The OP stated he did not recognize them and since he knows everyone in that area they obviously didn't belong there. He also stated that he was a recent crime victim so therefore criminals frequent the area. There was something about them that put the OP in condition red. Always trust your "spidey" senses.

If you want to be all PC and not be on alert for anyone or anything suspiciously out of place you will eventually become a crime victim too.
 
This may (or may not) be similar.

I live in an area that has had it’s share of problems, but also has a neighborhood association that tries to stay on top of things as best they can. There is a park across the street from me, and it is off limits after dark, and there is also a curfew for minors. The other night I got home after dark, and decided to go for my evening walk (as I often do). There is a bench in this park on one of the corners at a intersection (park is square, surrounded by four streets, one block each), and before starting out, I noticed some individuals walk across the park and take up residence on the bench (about three, maybe four of them). Realizing that my path would take along that corner of the park, I had a decision to make. Before continuing, I found a discrete place from which to call the police and alert them of the after hours violation, explaining that I had been instructed to do so by the head of the neighborhood association. I then began my walk, and as I approached them, I aimed my flashlight in their general direction just so I wouldn’t alarm them by passing by (they were probably about 20 ft away). I heard one of them comment on the ‘bright light”, and another one turned to stare (he was the one with the basketball). I made sure to keep an eye on them and continued on my way.

A couple years ago, there was a two to three week period when they was a heavy presence of drug dealing on that bench/corner. It's been clear for some time now though.

Keeping the neighborhood clean is a never-ending battle. One must not expect to get rid of today’s trash, and think there won’t be more next week.
 
I'm all for being alert, but calling the police because you didn't recognize two people walking through your neighborhood is a little over the top in my opinion.

We like to complain when the police are called because of a "man with a gun" who isn't doing anything illegal or wrong.

How would you like to have the police called on you because you were walking through a neighborhood on the way home from a friends house and some person didn't recognize you.
 
Who's to say where a couple of Hispanics belong?

Around here, their everywhere, their everywhere!

And around here, alleys are public right-of-ways, not private property.

There are no laws against walking in them, day or night.

rcmodel
 
Please. The OP stated he did not recognize them and since he knows everyone in that area they obviously didn't belong there.

So he knows each and every one of his neghbor's friends and relatives? Gimme a break. I know most of the folks on my block, but that doesn't mean that they don't have friends or family I've never seen before. :rolleyes:
 
Yeah apparrently this thread won't be locked as I thought when I first read it, so I'll say what I really think about it - the OP sounds like a racist. Walking in an alley isn't a crime - I wonder if the two hispanic guys thought YOU didn't belong in the alley? What if it had been a white woman you didn't recognize? Would you be glad you had your blaster then? We don't need this kind of blather. You give us all a bad name.
 
A lot of times actions like this stop anything from happening. Let's the bad folks know they are being watched. Not saying the guys you saw were bad but who knows.
 
Were they doing anything suspicious other than walking?

So you had your car broken into and a bunch of tools stolen, so you installed a motion sensor light with video, so did your video capture them doing anything wrong? What exactly does that have to do with two guys walking down the alley?

And what exactly did you find in the Alley? :confused:

Please. The OP stated he did not recognize them and since he knows everyone in that area they obviously didn't belong there.

He says he knows everyone up and down the alley. So who is to say they simply weren't cutting through like they said from elsewhere?

Nothing wrong with being alert. Nothing wrong with having the tools on hand in case things do go south. But to make automatic assumptions simply because they were walking....
 
I dont get it.

I dont get what race has to do with it to even be a factor.

Or i dont get why you would take it upon yourself to be alley patrol, and tell these two kids they had no business simply walking through it.

Curb crime, by calling the police for no reason because you saw two "hispanic youths" walking near your home?
 
sorry, but if two hispanic youths walking through an alley doing nothing wrong can fit the profile of criminal suspects

then the OP fits the profile of a racist.

I want to be THR about it, but as a young black american, I am often the victim of this type of profiling, so It does bother me.
 
Race factor -

If you live in an all or mostly one-race neighborhood and two young guys of a different race are wandering around late at night, statistically they're probably up to no good.

2 white guys late at night in an all-black neighborhood aren't up to any good either.

A bunch of middle-eastern guys taking pictures of a major bridge's support structure late at night probably aren't just mechanical engineering students.

Facts of life.
 
I'm suspicious of anyone who seems out of place - if I was in the alley and 2 white dudes I didn't recognize came walking by, I'd keep an eye on them, too, just to make sure they weren't keeping an eye on ME, EITHER... heck in front of my own home in suburban Franklin TN, inside the gated community, if I'm outside, I always try to keep my eyes out for ANYONE in the parking lot any time it's dark. If there is warm blood within 100 feet of me, I try to be aware of it, PERIOD.

Awareness is one thing, but coming online and saying "Guess WHAT (not WHO) I found in the alley", then specifying that the greatest crime these guys did was to be Hispanic, coupled with a discussion of the firearms you (and possibly your daughter) were ready to unload on them STINKS OF RACISM.

We have hispanic members here, you know - and black members, and probably some arab members, too. WE MUST BAND TOGETHER to defend our common interests, and racism like this, ISN'T DOING THAT. This is really making me angry.
 
There is nothing wrong with keeping an eye on whoever is in your alley or front walk or street but why call the cops? they did not do anything wrong in front of you. Did they?

Nothing wrong with being prepared either. Nothing wrong with asking them what's up. I'm what most people call a hispanic male but I always tell them I'm AMERICAN. I understand your concern for your property and safety of your family as you have had negative things happen to you such as theft. I've been there.

Next time just remain a silent observer. if they jump that fence that's another matter.

I think your intentions were good but I do not think you needed to call the cops on them. I also doubt the police came running to check it out.

More on topic though. I take it your garage is close to the alley as you said you were worried about your daughter entering your domicile alone.
Is their enough light out there to illuminate the area properly?? Not sure how your yard is setup. Maybe your daughter needs an upgrade to a hi-cap 9mm.

My wife comes home late as well but she always calls to let me know she is there and I always go out to meet her and make sure everything is ok. might tell your daughter to give whoever is home a ring to meet her outside. I think it is a good protocal.

I agree with elChupacabra your title does not leave the best impression but I will give you the benefit of the doubt and hope you did not intend it that way as this is THR.

There are some valid things to discuss though pertaining to the scenario but I think you need to bring out the points you want to convey properly and calrify what you mean/want to discuss.

Best Wishes.
 
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