Gun control doesn't reduce crime, violence, say studies

[Werewolf]

That's not what the studies conclude at all. Rather, they find that previous studies have failed to establish the correlation/causation -- that's a far cry from concluding that the correlation/causation does not exist.

I would counter that:

If since the 1968 GCA no study has found any correlation nor any causation between gun control and a reduction of crime then it is a pretty good bet that gun control doesn't impact crime.

Considering the effort put into proving that gun control works by the antis if in the 37 years since the 68 GCA not one single study can show GC helps then it probably doesn't.

By the way correlation and causation aren't even close to being the same thing.

There's a very high correlation between the phases of the moon and the homicide rate as well as the automobile accident rate but the phases of the moon absolutely do not cause high accident and homicide rates.

High correlation does not prove causation.

 

[cuchulainn]

If since the 1968 GCA no study has found any correlation nor any causation between gun control and a reduction of crime then it is a pretty good bet that gun control doesn't impact crime.

No. It could mean that all the studies were flawed in some way and thus their conclusions cannot be trusted -- which is pretty much what the new studies conclude.

However, poor methodology does not disprove the hypothesis. Again, lack of proof is not proof of the lack of proof.

By the way, there have been tons of studies claiming to find correlation and/or causation.

By the way correlation and causation aren't even close to being the same thing.

Yes, I'm well aware of that. But I see the source of your confusion -- I didn't mean to imply the two were synonyms by writing "correlation/causation." I thought the "either... or..." was implied.

 

[Sergeant Sabre]

That's not what the studies conclude at all. Rather, they find that previous studies have failed to establish the correlation/causation

Breaking news!!! This just in from the Justice Department: A recent study finds that no previous study has conclusively concluded that two plus two actually has any correlation/causation to the number four!!!