Lupinus
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Of the laundry isle....theres a reason you aren't supposed to mix bleech and ammonia
Gun Control Lobby, Thinking Small
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Mongo the Mutterer
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Always like to research authors of drivel like this. Googled "Jenny Price" in LA/writer, etc.RaggedClaws said:
Only person I could come up with was a whacked out lefty who seems to have several "causes" she promotes.. HMMM. Never wrote about her "loss" before??? BS antenna is twitching....
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I had the misfortune to read this article in the WaPo on Sunday. http://www.thehighroad.org/images/smilies/angryfire.gif
I'm sorry for the author's loss, but it's clear from the article that guns had nothing to do with it.
First of all, the incident took place in one of the most highly regulated firearms markets in the US. If what happened to her brother and his fiance wasn't pre-meditated murder, nothing is. Lacking a firearms, the murderer would have likely just run the victims over.
Others have questioned where the author's numbers came from. Well, it's fairly obvious that they're from the usual suspect sources: The Brady Center, etc. and carry along with them all manner of hidden assumptions.
First, according to the FBI's Uniform Crime Report, there were 16,137 murders and non-negligent homicides in 2004, which puts the US murder rate at 5.5 per 100K, or at a level so low that the murder rate hasn't been lower since 1965 -- long before the GCA of 1968 and all that followed at the Federal and State level. Since 77.9% of 70.3% of 2004's murders were committed with handguns, about 1/100 of 1% of 65 million handgun owners committed a murder in 2004 with a handgun.
Jenny Price opines: "Wouldn't it make more sense to define the ultimate battle as one for a national ban on handguns -- the sole gun-control measure that promises to save tens of thousands of lives? With an endgame that can actually achieve the ultimate goal, perhaps we'd acquire the logical and moral authority to win more of the smaller battles."
To this I would reply that it make no sense whatsoever. All I ever hear from the gun-ban promoters is a "promise" of lives saved. After the fall of the Soviet Union honest statistics about the murder rate in the FSU became available. The FSU has a murder rate 4 times as high as in the USA and one of the most restrictive sets of gun control laws in the world. And the comparisons don't end there. It's clear that social factors give us the murder rate we have and that gun control does nothing except steal a natural right of self defense from the law-abiding.
Keep the Faith
I'm sorry for the author's loss, but it's clear from the article that guns had nothing to do with it.
First of all, the incident took place in one of the most highly regulated firearms markets in the US. If what happened to her brother and his fiance wasn't pre-meditated murder, nothing is. Lacking a firearms, the murderer would have likely just run the victims over.
Others have questioned where the author's numbers came from. Well, it's fairly obvious that they're from the usual suspect sources: The Brady Center, etc. and carry along with them all manner of hidden assumptions.
First, according to the FBI's Uniform Crime Report, there were 16,137 murders and non-negligent homicides in 2004, which puts the US murder rate at 5.5 per 100K, or at a level so low that the murder rate hasn't been lower since 1965 -- long before the GCA of 1968 and all that followed at the Federal and State level. Since 77.9% of 70.3% of 2004's murders were committed with handguns, about 1/100 of 1% of 65 million handgun owners committed a murder in 2004 with a handgun.
Jenny Price opines: "Wouldn't it make more sense to define the ultimate battle as one for a national ban on handguns -- the sole gun-control measure that promises to save tens of thousands of lives? With an endgame that can actually achieve the ultimate goal, perhaps we'd acquire the logical and moral authority to win more of the smaller battles."
To this I would reply that it make no sense whatsoever. All I ever hear from the gun-ban promoters is a "promise" of lives saved. After the fall of the Soviet Union honest statistics about the murder rate in the FSU became available. The FSU has a murder rate 4 times as high as in the USA and one of the most restrictive sets of gun control laws in the world. And the comparisons don't end there. It's clear that social factors give us the murder rate we have and that gun control does nothing except steal a natural right of self defense from the law-abiding.
Keep the Faith
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