Gun guru ambush in the gunstore

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I was in a gun store last night and a couple was in there looking at 9mm handguns. After talking with a salesman for a few minutes, they continue wandering around looking and another customer starts to tell them apparently everything he knows about handguns like why some Browning Hipowers have ring hammers (so you can cock them by rolling them down your pants don't you know) and some don't and which is best and why. This guy is absolutely desperate to impress them with his knowledge and he will not quit. This guy was so odd I would be surprised if he didn't run them off and they didn't buy anything. Why do some people think that a little knowledge about guns makes them interesting to others or that anyone even cares? I have seen this before and it is always someone who thinks their gun knowledge makes them some kind of guru. I have never seen anybody so desperate to impress with their knowledge of cars, computers, vegetables, or anything else - it's always guns. What's up with that?
 
Actually, it's the same with just about every other thing out there. You just happen to be in gun stores when you hear this. If you were to hang out at the motorcycle shops, you'd hear people boast about their expertise in the (whichever field) of motorcycle racing. If you hang out at the specialty stores that sell to car enthusiests, you'd find their "car-gurus". If you hang around the vegetable stand at the grocery store, eventually you'll be arrested for being a perv. But you get what I mean.

That and the "gun-guru" does get a bit rabid and wild-eyed when he get's goin' doesn't he?!

Jubei
 
Oh, yeah. I know the type! :rolleyes:

Sounds to me like the "gun guru" might simply need a few good pharamaceuticals.
 
I wished I had an answer for you, but I used to see it myself all the time when I worked in a gun store.:what:
 
I have never seen anybody so desperate to impress with their knowledge of cars, computers, vegetables, or anything else - it's always guns.
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Don't get out much, do you? :)
What's up with that?
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It's human nature. Everyone has the impulse, every now and then. But some folks are just so insecure, or so socially inept, or so talkative, or so something, that they just cannot help trying to tell everyone everything they know every time they open their mouths. And if they run out of stuff they actually know, why, then they'll start making stuff up.

What's surprising to me is that so many people put up with it. You'd think these folks would get a fist in the jaw far more often than they do ...

pax

When I was younger I could remember anything, whether it happened or not. But I am getting old and soon I shall remember only the latter. -- Mark Twain
 
Yeah, people vesting their time in something --- whatever it is --- and their self-esteem hinges on letting people know about that knowledge. Sad but true.
 
Ain't it the truth? It seems only the morons feel the need to educate you. I have never run into a Elmer Keith at a Gun Shop.......Only Elmer Fudd:neener:

Kevin
 
That's funny I have one of those but not involving guns.

Last year I paddled(kayak) down the Loxahatchee River in Fl with the Sierra club (Don't start). One of the people in the group (an older woman) spends all morning talking about all the rivers she has paddled. This lady is talking about 5 and 7 day trips. The problem with her story is she is paddling totally wrong she is using her arms instead of her torso(This in shooting is akin to telling me your an IPSC champ but don't hit a target at 7 yds). So then we get to this tree that is blocking the river I get out of my boat and start helping people over. This master of kayaking refuses my help and falls in the water trying to get on the tree. Oh boy that was funny. She was quiet the rest of the day.
 
been there , heard that
Some can drive you crazy , You learn more listening then talking in most cases
 
I love my guns. I'm also a big fan of ospreys, fish and a whole lot more. Actually it was a good trip I did it by myself 3 more times. Let's see if I can put some of these up.
 

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Obviously, you've never hung out at a small airport. :p It's not called "hangar lying" for nothing...

How can you tell a pilot at a party? You don't; he'll tell you!:cool:

I've had to resist the nattering impulse many times.
 
I have never seen anybody so desperate to impress with their knowledge of cars, computers, vegetables, or anything else - it's always guns. What's up with that?
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Nope. You see it with computers too. :cuss: -ing I-have-no-life gamers, a lot of the time.
 
Sometimes there's a way to quickly shut up the gunshop commando or the guy who fancies himself Joe Expert Big Game Hunter ...

If you're trapped by one of these know-it-alls and he happens to be expounding on an area you have some expertise in or can use your own knowledge (or even some obscure factoid you remember about an obscure or older firearm, caliber or round) ... Out of the blue, ambush him with a technical question or even better, ask his opinion ... "So would you agree with Ackley, then, that the .257 Roberts is a far more efficient cartridge than the .257 Weatherby Magnum? And do you think the Weatherby is really overbore capacity and harder on barrels?"

If you can keep the questions coming, usually Joe Gunshop Commando's superficial knowledge (if he has any) of guns will quickly expire and he'll move along because he's been called at his own game.

It's even more entertaining too, when you get Joe FormerGreenBeret or Joe ExNavySEAL in the gunshop or at the gunshow blowin' hard ... It's fun to pull out some line, like DeNiro in "Ronin" to the thug who claimed he was ex-SBS: "What color's the boathouse at Hereford?"
 
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I have never seen anybody so desperate to impress with their knowledge of cars, computers, vegetables, or anything else - it's always guns. What's up with that?
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Heck, I ran a record shop for several years. Don't get me started :cuss: Every one of these schmoes thought he was the second coming of Lester Bangs or something. Interestingly enough, they seem to be exclusively male, which makes me wonder exactly how they reproduce.

From the proprietor's standpoint, these people are death, because they tie up endless amounts of your time, which could be better spent taking care of folks who are actually there to spend money. Ever see the Guru buy anything? Unlikely, and even when he does, he bitches about the price, buys the cheapest thing possible, and eats more time than he's worth in the process.

I see them all the time at my local range/shop, and the guys there are smart enough to ignore them (pretty much the best tactic), but fear not, as soon as I strike up a conversation with one of the employees, ZOOM!, the Guru sweeps in for the kill, interjecting whatever he feels might contribute to the meager and pathetic knowledge of us mere mortals.

Once the Guru smells blood, it's all over. The only reliable tactic is simple rudeness. Then they wander off in search of some other hapless victim.
 
Interestingly enough, they seem to be exclusively male, which makes me wonder exactly how they reproduce.
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Like all bacteria ... by fission.

pax
 
like DeNiro in "Ronin"
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Oh, I so like the coffee ambush scene. ""Ambush, you talk about a ******' ambush, I ambushed you with a cup a coffee". Suppose our version would be dropping a disassembled common gun (Glock, AR, not obscure or difficult) on the desk and telling him to put it back together.

Suddenly recall the HK catalog that prominently showed the magazine ... loaded ... backwards.
 
"How can you tell a pilot at a party? You don't; he'll tell you!"

That is a good one.:D You can insert several other jobs as well, doctor, fireman, cop, EMT, ect. There are several jobs that people just can't wait to tell you about. It doesn't matter to them if you care or not, they just want you to know that they are somebody.

Whats worse is when people lie about what they do to make themselves sound more important. Everyone nowadays seems to be a "service manager", "sales associate" or "consultant". Everyone has these great sounding jobs but saleries have not gone up in a few decades. People are working more and getting paid less. Nobody has insurance but at least they have a cool sounding job.:rolleyes:

It has been a long time since I listened to gun store workers. I have heard some of the stupidest things from these people. Most of these people are actually really nice guys but they are losers in other ways. These are people that are making Wal-Mart wages or less most of the time. Do you look to your Wal-Mart worker to know what he is talking about? I know I don't. I can't shake the feeling that I know much more than 90% of the gun store workers do about their own products. It is hard to put up with a guy telling you a lie right to your face. When you call them on it, they get mad so what are you supposed to do? Most of the time I try not to engage them in any conversation that isn't about price.
 
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