Gun History...

[Jeff Seal]

first post, so go easy on me!!!

I recently acquired my family's gun collection, unfortunately due to my father's passing..... lost his battle with cancer..!

Although I'm somewhat familiar with most of the guns we shot together...(Ruger MKIII, Rossi .357 Magnum, H&R 929)...I'm seeking info on much older guns and maybe somebody here can help.... I've tried to "research" these as much as possible, so forgive me if this is nothing new...

What I have.... (with the info I've found..)

Colt 1860...



D. Moore Pat. revolver...



"Owls head" Iver Johnson .22..no pic

"Unique" Model C (police)



..anyone have any info on these...(not necessarily the value, just making sure I have the right info/model no's for these!)

Rifles/ Shotguns ... savage 1899, Winchester 67, Mossberg 183d-b and a "meriden firearms" dbl barrell 12. ga shotgun...

I readily admit I don't know that much about these other than firing the newer ones....anything I should know????

Jeff Seal

 

[Medusa]

Welcome

Sorry that I cannot help you (not strong in older weapons), but man, you have some nice pieces of ordnance there. Sorry about the dad

 

[dfaugh]

Can't help much with IDs and such...but I'll add one comment...Keep them in good condition, regardless of value, so they can contimue to be passed on...My friend (a lady who really has no interest in guns,per se) just brought me 3 old guns that belonged to her father and grandfather...Unfortunately, her father had just stuffed them in a closet to rust for the last 30 years...While 2 aren't worth much, one is quite valuable(a Winchester 1890 .22), but only in good condition, and the cost to restore it would be close to what it's worth. Another (a .410 SxS shotgun) is pitted so badly its (IMO) unsafe to fire. Anyway, I'm just gonna clean then up the best I can, and make a display case for her, so they can be kept as family heirlooms (she has no interested in shooting them any way.).... This is a very timely thread as she sent me a note this morning, that her father had had a massive stroke (she was already at her parents, as he had a minor stroke a few days ago), and the prognosis is poor...Luckily she got ahold of the guns before her brother did, 'cause he's a jerk, and God knows what would've happened to them...

Sorry about your Dad, I lost mine many years ago....

 

[Werewolf]

WOW!

Assuming that Colt is the real deal I've seen them in a condition much worse than the one you've pictured going for upwards of $20,000 displayed at the gunshop here that specializes in antique weapons (saw one they wanted $60K for and they sold it).

Lock that sucker up and by all means get it appraised - the others too for that matter. You may be sitting on items a whole lot more valuable than you might imagine (or they might be junk - I'm not into antiques so I don't really have a clue.) Seek a specialist.

 

[Trebor]

A description of the various markings on the guns and their locations would be helpful.

I agree, that Colt, if it is an original Colt and not a reproduction, is quite valuable.

 

[4v50 Gary]

Post pics of the markings on all the guns. That'll help our net-perts here.

 

[Taurus 617 CCW]

My condolences on your father passing. Wonderful collection you have.

 

[Jim K]

The first is an 1860 Colt and appears to be original. If so, and as far as I can tell from the one picture, it could run about $1500-2200. If it is a reproduction, it would bring maybe $100.

The second is a Moore revolver, made in Brooklyn, N.Y. from 1861 to 1863. Flayderman says several thousand were made before production was stopped when Moore lost a lawsuit brought by Smith & Wesson over the bored through chambers (the Rollin White Patent). It is .32 rimfire caliber, 7 shot. Like many other guns of that period, it is fairly rare, but not especially valuable. My estimate would be in the $400-500 range in that condition. (The engraving adds nothing, as they were all engraved.)

The third is a Unique .32 ACP pistol, the Military and Police model. They were made in Hendaye, in the French Pyrenees, from the 1920's through WWII. They were used by the French Police and also by the Germans after the fall of France. The design is a common one in France and Spain, but the French guns are much better made than the ones from across the border. The "RF" (Republique Francaise) grips indicate that this one was French police issue. Some versions were imported into the U.S. after the war, and Sears sold a .22 Unique as their Model 51. They are a decent gun, well made and reliable, but in that poor condition value would be around $50-70. See

http://www.gunsworld.com/assembly/unique_ass_us.htm

for takedown instructions.

Jim

 

[justashooter]

savage 1899 can be of considerable value. plenty of collector info on the net, do a search. chamberings like 303 savage have artificially low values as cartridges are difficult to find. takedown is a plus.

winchester 67 is my area. 1937-1968 (?), with early guns having 27" bbl and prewar guns having grooved forearms. value from 100$ to 250$ in the real market depending on what you have. similar mag fed winchesters just a little higher.

post pix of these two.