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I was reading the December issue of Guns Magazine this morning, and found this pretty odd. In Ranging Shots, by Clint Smith, there is a picture of a model 10 and a paper plate full of holes with the following caption:

If everyone who needs a defensive handgun owned a Smith & Wesson model 10 .38 speciel revolver, and if they could hit a paper plate every time at 5 yards in an expedited manner, the world would truly be a dangerous place.
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It might just be me, but following this train of thought would end up with "more guns equals more crime." Which goes back to the "streets running red with blood" when Florida passed the Shall Issue CCW law and many other stupid comments made by the anti's over the years.

I thought Clint was smarter than this. What do you guys think?
 
Having followed Clint's writing and seeing his videos from Thunder Ranch...I'm sure that was not his intent.

I think he is so completely enveloped in the mindset that all citizens have the God-given right...no, duty...to be armed, that he's worried that we actually know how to use them. When he says "dangerous place", I fairly certain his intent was...as armoredman says..."for criminals and thugs".

Clint is one of the good guys. You now have permission to untwist those panties.
 
Let's see, Clint has probably wrote about 500,000 words in various gun magazines over the last couple of decades, wrote a few books on the same subject, became one of the premier firearms instructors in the world, founded one of the most respected training facilities ever, and trained thousands upon thousands of people to shoot better...

Yep, he's out to get you. :scrutiny:
 
Having read Clint's stuff for several years, either he (or the typesetter) forgot the "for criminals and thugs" bit at the end, or the word "dangerous" is a typo and it should be "safer".

Either way, write 'em a "letter to the editor" and see what they say.
 
Either I'm reading the wrong magazine or the following are standard:
1- Any firearm reviewed is good.
2- Play the fear card to get the readers interest.
3- Be cheezy.
 
I wasn't really ragging on Clint. I have read enough of his stuff over the years that I think I know where he stands on this issue. He may not write the captions either. I just felt that it should have been caught by somebody before it was published, and either re-worded or completed.

I can just see Sarah Brady, or some other high profile anti (mis-)quoting "...and Clint Smith, a very knowledgeable, pro-gun nut even agrees that more guns are dangerous..."

It's pretty easy to take things out of context and use it against us. At least those that are against us probably don't read gun magazines.
 
Don't Read?

At least those that are against us probably don't read gun magazines.
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Error: flawed assumption.

These people are zealots.

I would imagine they have legions of winged monkeys that read everything written in the gun mag community.

Brady and Schumer themselves may not read all that stuff, but I'm sure their minions keep them abreast of things they can twist.

Kind of like Media Matters does for TV and radio.
 
Clint Smith

If everyone who needs a defensive handgun owned a Smith & Wesson model 10 .38 speciel revolver, and if they could hit a paper plate every time at 5 yards in an expedited manner, the world would truly be a dangerous place.

He says "everyone who needs a defensive handgun". Defending themselves from someone attacking them. That sounds like it would make the world a dangerous place for those who are doing the attacking, (the criminal element). It could be worded better, but that's still what I get out of it.
 
ArfinGreebly said:
Error: flawed assumption.

These people are zealots.

I would imagine they have legions of winged monkeys that read everything written in the gun mag community.

Brady and Schumer themselves may not read all that stuff, but I'm sure their minions keep them abreast of things they can twist.

Kind of like Media Matters does for TV and radio.
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Excellent observation.

I was struck by the fact that VPC had evidently stashed away a Jeff Cooper quote from 1991 to resurrect it in a letter to the Redskin's owner in 2005. So they've evidently archived "Gans and Ammo" or at least "Cooper's Corner" portion thereof.

This is not all bad: it was a Cooper quote missing from my collection. After getting over the embarassment of VPC's Cooper quotes being more complete than my own I copied it without so much as a "thank you" to Mr. Diaz.

http://www.vpc.org/vpcletter.pdf
 
http://www.vpc.org/vpcletter.pdf
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If I am ever "blessed" enough to get a letter like that, it would be followed with a letter from my attorney to never contact me or my organization again, unless they want to face harassment charges.
 
There's nothing wrong with being dangerous. Most of us are quite dangerous.
to quote the old wizard:

"Dangerous? And so am I, very dangerous: more dangerous than anything you will ever meet, unless you are brought alive before the seat of the Dark Lord. And Aragorn is dangerous, and Legolas is dangerous. You are beset with dangers, Gimli son of Gloin; for you are dangerous yourself, in your own fashion." –Gandalf, from JRR Tolkein's Lord of the Rings
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To assume that the goal is reducing everyone into meek, non-dangerous subjects is to accept the Brady Bunch's basic premise. We are a dangerous nation full of dangerous people. Any one of us might have a weapon that can be used to kill at any time. We have to get over the notion that dangerous=bad.
 
The VPC has been known to quote gun magazines and other publications when it serves their purposes.

I've seen enough references here and there to figure that Tom Diaz is still a gun owner, and I would find it completely unsurprising if it turns out that he reads gun-related publications.

He's no different than a preacher who rails against the sins of pornography, yet has a stash of nudie magazines in his closet at home.
 
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