Gun Rights Group Outraged that New Orleans Officials Confiscated Guns

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Gun Rights Group Outraged that New Orleans Officials Confiscated Guns
By Melanie Hunter
CNSNews.com Senior Editor
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=\Culture\archive\200509\CUL20050909b.html

(CNSNews.com) - A gun rights group is calling a decision by New Orleans officials to confiscate guns from law-abiding citizens "simply outrageous."

Gun Owners of America challenged the mayor's authority to order the confiscations.

"You can't legitimately suspend the God-given rights of American citizens who have committed no crimes," said Erich Pratt, director of communications for GOA.

Pratt said the confiscations won't make the people of New Orleans any safer. "Privately owned firearms were the only thing which prevented good people from becoming victims in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, when few policemen were to be found anywhere in the city," he said.

"There have been many stories of self-defense, where stranded survivors were able to use firearms to protect what little they had, against the criminal thugs who had been released from the prisons. To take away their firearms now is simply adding 'insult to injury,'" said Pratt.

"Unfortunately, we have yet to learn the lessons from previous dark episodes in our recent history," Pratt said. "We need to remember those lessons, such as the riots of Los Angeles more than a decade ago."

Pratt said during the riots in 1992, the city was "in complete turmoil as stores were looted and burned. Motorists were dragged from their cars and beaten." In Los Angeles, as in New Orleans, police were slow to respond to the crisis, he said.

Even National Guardsmen who were sent to the affected areas just sat back and watched the violence because they were low on ammunition, said Pratt.

"But not everybody in Los Angeles suffered," Pratt said. "In some of the hot spots, Korean merchants were able to successfully protect their stores with semi-automatic firearms. In areas where armed citizens banded together for self-protection, their
businesses were spared while others -- which were left unprotected -- burned to the ground."

According to media reports on the aftermath of the LA riots, "life-long gun control supporters were running to gun stores" to buy guns only to find there was a 15-day waiting period for firearms, said Pratt.

"Will we never learn?" Pratt said. "It is a fact that firearms save millions of lives every year. So if Mayor Ray Nagin really wanted to help the decent citizens of New Orleans, he would be issuing them firearms instead of taking them away.

"Nagin's actions will put people in further jeopardy -- and if one citizen dies in New Orleans because he was deprived of the ability to defend himself or his family, there will be blood on the Mayor's hands," concluded Pratt.
 
Agreed. I decided some time ago that the NRA was a do-nothing group, but I kept hearing "it's the best we have!" Well, it's not. Not after this.
 
Well, I haven't joined GOA, mainly because I haven't seen them do anything. They write more angry letters than the NRA, but that's about it from what I've seen. I joined my state level gun organization over GOA because the state one gets results. Same with the NRA.

Now, if GOA actually shows up the NRA in this situation, I'll consider joining.

But, in reality we all know NRA, GOA, 2AF, etc aren't going to do jack about this. Perhaps when everything is done, and the 'investigations' start, maybe these groups will get involved. But even then, you'll only see and hear about the NRA.


Since I'm throwing mud at GOA, can anyone point me to something they have done, on a national scale? Convince myself and others to join them.
 
nice to see some teeth bared in response to what is going on. for a while I was thinking no group was going to step up to the plate. as soon as I have the funds I am joining up.
 
I sent them 500 yesterday.

FYI, the GOA helps to unseat anti-gun incumbents, while the NRA mostly picks safe fights. The GOA helped getting Daschle unseated and Coburn elected in 2004.
 
can anyone point me to something they have done, on a national scale?

Your exactly right. There is no publicity of this organization in the media. If I was anti-gun I'd pretend like they didn't exist too! GOA stands for exterminating anti-gun opinion, not legitimizing it through compromise.

If you contribute to them they will blow their own horn for you in the form of a newsletter. This details their involvement in various bills along with the who, what, where, when, and why. They list their accomplishments and future plans also.

Sorry but I don't have access to one of these or I could give you specific examples of things they claim. The money does not appear to disappear into a black hole... I've been polled on which priorities I'd like them to focus on next. Believe it or not those actually do become actions on their part. That alone freaks me out! :D
 
Compare this to the tepid response from the NRA and you'll see why GOA gets my check.

You will also see why the GOA is largely irrelevant on the national stage. Writing angry letters is about all that we can expect from them. While i LIKE their statement, and agree with it, noone but other RKBA supporters are going to bother reading it. We dont need to convince each other that whats happening in NO is wrong, we need to convince everyone else.
 
GOA is a good (and agressive) outfit that deserves our support. They do keep tabs on things and generate a substantial number of letters to legislators and others - who should be getting a pile of them now.

But the NRA has a lot more clout with those same legislators, because the media tends to either support or blame them (usually the latter) for what ever happens. Time after time they have seen the NRA turn out the vote during election - in numbers that count - and this is what counts.

Sending money to GOA is not a bad idea ...

But supporting both organizations is a better one.
 
Ditto Old Fuff.
Each organization has their strengths and weaknesses. I belong to both, and I will continue to.
 
Oooooh!

GOA issues an ANGRY PRESS RELEASE!!


Oooooh! They DO STUFF!

Oooh! THEY MATTER!!!!!!!!!!!

Ooooooh! GOA IS BETTER THAN NRA!!!!!!!

:rolleyes:


I'll throw some cash at GOA on the day after both liberal Dem politicians and the media whine and cry foul about GOA's unfair power and ability to strongarm legislation.

Until that day, you can throw money at a bunch of angry-press-release-issuers all you want to.

But not me.

hillbilly
 
I'm a member of the NRA. I will join the GOA also. Don't see how it could hurt being a member of both.
 
I'm a member of both organizations because I see them each fulfilling a different functon in protecting our rights. GOA has historically been our "attack dog." They're able to come out and bluntly say the things the NRA can't say without losing important and delicate political alliances that GOA doesn't have.

I do wish the two organizations would collaborate more on strategies and tactics.
 
The GOA helped getting Daschle unseated...

i'm not sure i buy that... all the non-political anti-daschle commercials i saw during the campaign were run by the nra (and it was a lot), and i probably saw 2 run the by the republican party... but the several other dozens were nra-backed. i do not recall goa making even a public whimper here during the campaigns.

ultimately, i credit daschle's defeat to daschle himself. his anti-gun voting record was lit up w/ a massive carbon-arc searchlight, and s.d. is a very pro-gun state.

of course, it didn't hurt that thune goes to gun shows w/ his wife and kids, that thune ran a superior campaign, that the nra really, really, really put the screws to daschle, or that daschle ran around parading w/ his brand-spankin' new shotgun in a cornfield wearing freshly pressed new clothes, while driving around in his brand new suburban, all the while claiming to 'feel our pain' (s.d. has lots of farmers who struggle)...

back to the topic, if goa did anything to defeat daschle, i didn't see it. that does not take away from me supporting goa or agreeing w/ their message, though.
 
But the NRA has a lot more clout with those same legislators, because the media tends to either support or blame them (usually the latter) for what ever happens. Time after time they have seen the NRA turn out the vote during election - in numbers that count - and this is what counts.

Sending money to GOA is not a bad idea ...

But supporting both organizations is a better one.
The NRA is the irrelevent organization, because they refuse to jeopardize what is perceived as their political clout by picking fights they don't think they'll win. If GOA had a membership anywhere close to that of the NRA they would be probably ten times more effective than the NRA. I support GOA. I will not support the NRA until I see them supporting me.
 
I tend to agree. I support both. Now, if/when GOA and NRA membership and clout are about equal, it will be time to hold the "do I want the firebrands or the moderates?" debate (and that's not much of a debate). Until then, I'll back both.

Mike
 
Why must the good and the better be enemies?

I don't really see them as such. I get a GOA news alert at least once a month and I can't recall ever seeing GOA badmouth the NRA.

GOA keep me updated on legislative issues far more frequently than the NRA.

The NRA spends a gazillion dollars a year trying to beat bad politicians or candidates.

It seems to me that one spends a lot of time, the other spends a lot of money.

I don't have an abundance of either, so I'll still support the NRA and GOA.
 
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