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I've been watching some THC presentations (a WWI one was especially good), and today there were shows about Old West outlaws and lawmen.
There was a brief scene of a gunman pointing an SAA...with the ejector rod housing on the left.
It might easily have been a reversed image, but it was just odd. (Yeah, I know there were some custom, mirror image SAAs)
What weird gun things have you seen lately?
Moon
 
I'm still looking for one of those left handed Mauser M1893s the Spanish Troops carry in Rough Riders.
There are pictures of Gail Davis as Annie Oakley with what look like S&W M&Ps fitting with Colt SSA style ejector rods.
 
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I've spent more time the last 2 months watching TV while recovering from surgery than normal. Lots of episodes of Gunsmoke, Rawhide, Wagon Train, Laramie and others. I've seen more than a few handguns and lever action rifles with no front sight on them. High-definition TV and 50"+ screens allow us to see details that people wouldn't notice in the 1950's and 60's when these shows were filmed.

Some appear to be plastic prop guns, but others are the real thing with the sight simply removed. I can only guess, but it could be to prevent actors from being cut by the sight during scenes where they are fighting to get control of a gun.

I noticed years ago that on Bonanza they used Winchester 1892 rifles with the forend removed and the receiver painted a brass color to make them appear to be Henry rifles. I actually don't mind that. They are trying to be period correct and at that time a real Henry would be too rare to use in filming and there were no reproductions like we have today. That's better than the movies and shows set in the 1850's and 1860's with guys carrying Colt SAA's that weren't made until the 1870's. That happens a lot.
 
Some of my favorite movie gun substitutions were the US Krag-Jorgensen rifles that stood in for Lee-Metfords in Gunga-Din and then as Schultz' rifle in Hogans Heros.

The latter example was, inadvertently, fairly plausible since captured Norwegian Krags actually were issued to German garrison and prison guard units. The reason for the Krags' use on the show, however, was that John Banner, who played Schultz, refused to carry a Nazi weapon.
 
md7 said:
In the matrix when Neo is firing the minigun from the helicopter, all the spent casings are crimped blanks.
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Watch the end of Rambo, when he shoots up the communications ten with the M-60, and they actually do a CLOSE UP of the blanks pouring out the ejection port. But, back to the Matrix for another fun one, when firing the Czech Skorpions they are leaving tons of 5.56mm brass...from .32 ACP submachineguns.
 
Years ago at Fort Benning i saw a photo from Ranger School, the two Rangers w/their faces all camouflaged, their Ranger caps, they had a dog, in position behind an M-60 machine gun-with the blank adaptor in place. They're painted red.
 
BLACKHAWKNJ said:
There are pictures of Gail Davis as Annie Oakley with what look like S&W M&Ps fitting with Colt SSA style ejector rods.
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This was common, I read an old article showing all manner of DAs faked up to look like SAs. Usually just a dummy ejector rod housing but there was a New Service with "plow handle" butt so it would look right in a holster. Also lots of SAAs with a web under the barrel to look like a Remington.

Here is a steely-eyed Clu Gulager doing the Sabrina with a M&P. Round butt and ivory handles, too.

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cfullgraf said:
I see lots of images on TV where the subject has been flipped. I'm not sure why the film makers do that but it happens.
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Done, I am told, for picture composition, for some reason they want the character facing left, not right.

BLACKHAWKNJ said:
M-60 machine gun-with the blank adaptor in place. They're painted red.
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Well, the Army wants to know the troops are shooting blanks and the movie director doesn't want the audience to know.
 
I watched Dampyr on Netflx a couple weeks ago. It's vampire movie set in 1992 during the War in Bosnia. Kind of like Blade but without Samurai Swords. They did a good job on the guns with AK47's, Uzi's, and Tokarev pistols.

IMI actually sold Uzis to the Serbs back in that time period.
 
armoredman said:
Watch the end of Rambo, when he shoots up the communications ten with the M-60, and they actually do a CLOSE UP of the blanks pouring out the ejection port. But, back to the Matrix for another fun one, when firing the Czech Skorpions they are leaving tons of 5.56mm brass...from .32 ACP submachineguns.
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I’ve seen that movie several times, and never noticed that about the Scorpions/5.56 brass.

Need to rewatch Rambo. First Blood?
 
Jim Watson said:
Well, the Army wants to know the troops are shooting blanks and the movie director doesn't want the audience to know.
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We had those red gizmos for our ARs, back in the day, enabling the guys in charge to make sure everyone got the memo. They did let the gun cycle on blanks.
armoredman said:
But, back to the Matrix for another fun one, when firing the Czech Skorpions they are leaving tons of 5.56mm brass...from .32 ACP submachineguns.
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I've a neutered Scorp, so I'd love to have seen that.
cfullgraf said:
I see lots of images on TV where the subject has been flipped. I'm not sure why the film makers do that but it happens.
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Wonder if it is even accidental, with simply a flipped image. It's not uncommon in modern selfies; saw one the other day where it appeared the subject had a right hand drive car.
Moon
 
My nephew is a TV and movie editor and I always give him grief about the stupid gun stuff I see, sometimes on shows he’s edited.
The worst was an episode of CSI Miami, where a guy shoots his girlfriend with a J-frame .38, then throws it up onto a roof behind him. The revolver falls off the other side, fires and kills a woman.
Well, that’s just not possible. There was an empty, fired case under the hammer. Even if you could get a wheelgun like that to fire by dropping it – and you can’t – there’s no way that gun could fire.
My nephew tells me that every time someone points a gun – any kind of gun – at someone, there’s a safety-click / slide-rack sound because the producer or director insists on the editor dubbing it in. Same with car tire screeches, even when the car’s going slowly or is on dirt.

Those people don’t know squat about guns and assume no one else does, either.
 
Japle said:
My nephew is a TV and movie editor and I always give him grief about the stupid gun stuff I see, sometimes on shows he’s edited.
The worst was an episode of CSI Miami, where a guy shoots his girlfriend with a J-frame .38, then throws it up onto a roof behind him. The revolver falls off the other side, fires and kills a woman.
Well, that’s just not possible. There was an empty, fired case under the hammer. Even if you could get a wheelgun like that to fire by dropping it – and you can’t – there’s no way that gun could fire.
My nephew tells me that every time someone points a gun – any kind of gun – at someone, there’s a safety-click / slide-rack sound because the producer or director insists on the editor dubbing it in. Same with car tire screeches, even when the car’s going slowly or is on dirt.

Those people don’t know squat about guns and assume no one else does, either.
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The best part is hearing a safety/hammer being pulled back on a GLOCK!!
 
In the movie "Scrooged", Bill Murray's character pulls out a S&W J-frame and fires... only 5 rounds. They actually got it right for a change.

Japle said:
My nephew tells me that every time someone points a gun – any kind of gun – at someone, there’s a safety-click / slide-rack sound because the producer or director insists on the editor dubbing it in. Same with car tire screeches, even when the car’s going slowly or is on dirt.
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Now I know how Bo and Luke Duke squealed the General Lee's tires on a dirt road!
 


Oh, they know all about how ridiculous those foleyed sounds and bizarre gunpossibilities are - but above all, they also know that someone's going to lap it up nevertheless.

Gun scenes and effects are like cheap roach motel apartments. Somebody's still going to rent...

We just looove bashing their "ignorance" because we're the "gun guys" and they're "not," and it validates our own self - image of "gunliness." :rofl:

Entirely understandable, 'tis yoooman nature :rofl:
 
I'm no expert on World War I but these girls don't seem to using the right weapons for the period and the uniforms seem slight off for trench warfare.
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45/30-06OKIE said:
The best part is hearing a safety/hammer being pulled back on a GLOCK!!
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Near the end of the movie, “Stand by Me,” Wil Wheaton fires a 1911, 45ACP in the air. Then he immediately points the 1911 at Kiefer Sutherland and tells him he’s going to shoot him as he slowly cocks the hammer back. I don’t know how or when that 1911 became “un-cocked” after Wil Wheaton fired it in the air. My own 1911 doesn’t work like that. ;)
 
There was a cable series a few years ago about Hitler that had some really strange firearms.
In several scenes there were soldiers firing 98 Mauser's and right next to them were German soldiers firing #3 Lee-Enfields....with a bolt handle on the LEFT SIDE. No the film was not reversed, the 98 Mauser's had bolt handles on the right side.

This was the show showing Hitler having trouble getting his gas mask sealed around his handle bar mustache so he shaves the ends off, using a WWII British Commando knife.
In the Beer Hall revolution in the 1920's the German police are armed with British Enfields.
It also had George Patton standing in a car blazing away at Mexican bandits with a WWII Browning machine gun, with them riding horses about 20 feet in front of the car, and George isn't hitting them.
Patton was also carrying his ivory six gun jammed into a full flap .45 auto hip holster.
 
cfullgraf said:
images on TV where the subject has been flipped. I'm not sure why
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Give you even odds it's a "dodge" on copyright. Let's say you have found this one still image that illustrates your point precisely. But, you can't track down who owns the image (or it's copyright). But, you are including it in a "for profit" broadcast. Cheap answer is to flip the image and not bring any attention to it, and hope any copyright holders have lazy lawyers.
 
md7 said:
I’ve seen that movie several times, and never noticed that about the Scorpions/5.56 brass.

Need to rewatch Rambo. First Blood?
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Not the first one, the second one where he goes to Vietnam with the magic bow and arrow, the one with the nuclear bomb Copperhead arrowheads. It's at the end, when he lands the Vietnamese Huey, with an M-60A2 racked on the OUTSIDE of the aircraft, and walks into the communications tent, destroying everything in it with blanks.
 
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