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I can’t imagine any way that this is a legal pistol, so I defer to the legal authorities here
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If a firearm is first made into a pistol it can be configured as a rifle or a pistol at any time. If it was first made as a rifle it can’t be configured as a pistol. There is a minimum overall length for a rifle (below 26” overall length it’s an NFA short-barrel rifle), but there’s no minimum or maximum overall length for a pistol.I have no clue about rifles turning into pistols, but i do know there is a minimum over all length
If a firearm is first made into a pistol it can be configured as a rifle or a pistol at any time. If it was first made as a rifle it can’t be configured as a pistol. There is a minimum overall length for a rifle (below 26” overall length it’s an NFA short-barrel rifle), but there’s no minimum or maximum overall length for a pistol.
Yes, I was referring to federal law. As always, state laws are varied and may be more restrictive.This may be true as a statement of the federal law, but some state laws are more restrictive.
In California, once a weapon has been configured as a rifle, it cannot legally be reconfigured as a pistol, even if it started out that way.
There is no overall length limit or barrel length limit to a pistol. If it didn’t start off life as a rifle and it current doesn’t have a stock installed on it, it can’t be a rifle no matter how long it is.If the OAL is longer than 26" (we already know the bbl's >16"), it's quite possible ATF would call it a rifle. Kinda ugly though.
That was my thinking, but I don’t know enough to be sure. If that started off life as a rifle then it’s not a pistol, it’s just a rifle that has had the stock removed.I would be surprised to find out any Arisaka started out as a pistol.
That's correct.There is no overall length limit or barrel length limit to a pistol.
It's an Arisaka. We can be highly confident that it started life as a rifle. Sunrise confident.If it didn’t start off life as a rifle. . .
No, I don't think so. Adding a stock to a pistol makes it a rifle (or SBR), but I do not believe removing the stock from a rifle makes it a pistol. Bench resters have been making rail guns with rifle actions for a long time, and I don't think they're all violating NFA.. . . and it current doesn’t have a stock installed on it, it can’t be a rifle no matter how long it is.
It's the same as putting a pistol grip on a shotgun with an 18" barrel as long as it's 26" OAL.That was my thinking, but I don’t know enough to be sure. If that started off life as a rifle then it’s not a pistol, it’s just a rifle that has had the stock removed.
What I posted was correct. If a firearm started off life as a pistol and is currently configured as a pistol, then it’s a pistol no matter how long it is. Like I said, there is no overall length limit to a pistol.No, I don't think so. Adding a stock to a pistol makes it a rifle (or SBR), but I do not believe removing the stock from a rifle makes it a pistol. Bench resters have been making rail guns with rifle actions for a long time, and I don't think they're all violating NFA.
What I posted was correct. If a firearm started off life as a pistol and is currently configured as a pistol, then it’s a pistol no matter how long it is. Like I said, there is no overall length limit to a pistol.
But I agree it’s pretty unlikely that an Arisaka was first made as a pistol.
Simple: it's a rifle. Provided it's OAL is >26" (and we know it's bbl is >16") it's not an SBR, so it's just a rifle.I can't see how the Arisaka pictured above could be legal as it has a pistol grip which it surely didn't start with.
That’s only the case if the firearm started off life as a rifle (which it probably did). And overall length with rifles applies when the stock is installed (and in the extended position if adjustable). If you’re disassembling a rifle and you take the stock off and that causes it to be under 26” overall length, that’s not an NFA violation. Now, if you permanently modify it to not have a stock, that’s different. And it appears from the pic that that’s what was done to the Arisaka, but it’s hard to tell from the tiny pic on my phone.Simple: it's a rifle. Provided it's OAL is >26" (and we know it's bbl is >16") it's not an SBR, so it's just a rifle.
If a bench rest rail gun was assembled that way and never had a stock installed, then it’s not a rifle. A firearm cannot ever be a rifle if has never had a stock installed on it.Pistol's may not have rifle stocks; the opposite is not the case. Benchrest rail guns, with rifle receivers, >16"/26" dimensions, and no stock whatsoever, are rifles.
It's not a pistol.I can’t imagine any way that this is a legal pistol, so I defer to the legal authorities here
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