Guns of Battlestar Galactica - CZ-52!!

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The episode that is currently on now, Captain Adama who ambushed the one guy in the bathroom was carrying a CZ-52. You could clearly make it out when he held it to the guys head. Also, they made a mistake...the CZ-52 is SA and the hammer was not cocked! Funny stuf.

What other guns are featured on there?...I saw:

1.) FN 57
2.) Beretta CX4 Storm
3.) unknown Makarow
4.) Micro Uzi
5.) 1911 of some sorts

What is strange is that they have so hi tech stuff...they still use "antique" weapons! :neener:
 
Most of the weapons in BSG actually aren't all that hi-tech. Sure the CX4 Storm looks all fancy, but it's their basic weapon for their marines and such., not much different than an AR-15.

The only other standard issue arm in the show is the pilots sidearm. I never have been able to tell what gun they modified it from. Just looks like a pistol with a lasersight/flashlight under the front slide.

In the one episode on Kobol, Richard Hatch's friend was carrying 2 four-barrel dillingers. I'll have to go back and take a look at the CZ-52, don't remember seeing it.

Heck, even the Vipers still use projectile weapons. No fricken laserbeams in this sci-fi!
 
In addation to what you have mentioned I have seen FNP90s,

several Skorpions, http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg26-e.htm

a H&K UMP, a Beretta M12S, what looks like an Accuracy International L96 but the stock is kinda diffrent, and Enfield SA-80.

The standerd issue sidearm looks to me like some 1911, with some diffrent wrap around wooden grips and a underslung rocket launcher.

If you couldn't tell I am a Battlestar Galactica junkie :D best show on TV right now.
 
How about some guns from the original Battlestar Galactica?

(Until then I'll be junking real cylons with Lloyd Bridges over on the Pegasus...)

:p
 
Seen some BSG for the first time tonight. I feel asleep watching "John Doe" and woke up to BSG. I just assumed there was something in the plot that accounted for the old guns being used on a space ship:scrutiny: So really, what's up with that? At least on SG-1 it's suppose to be present day US military.
 
I think its more along the lines of firefly, they cleared out the props locker and took what looks cool, no real story line to why they are using 20th century weapons tech.
 
The main reason you see alot of different guns on BSG is because the fleet has a limited supply of weaponry. Other than the arms aboard the Galactica and the Pegasus, there is no real source of firepower. Add that to the fact that two battlestars, all by themselves were never meant to handle this amount of fighting, and you have a situation where they have to start using their personal weapons on an everyday basis.

You also have the civilian black market that was covered in a recent episode. In the fairly closed environment of the fleet, people end up with all kinds of different weapons.

Another reason why more advanced weaponry isn't present is because BSG was never intended to be as hi-tech as a show such as Star Trek. The show gets its look way more from Star Wars. Part of having that gritty/human feel to the show is having weapons that we are all familair with. Laser pistols and the like require a much larger "suspension of disbelief" by the viewer.
 
In the mini-series they made an attempt to "dress up" the sidearms at least so they'd look futuristic. They modified some Mateba revolvers with a plastic or fiberglass shell to had the cylinder. They added some "ge gaws" later as well. There were also some non-firing dummies made that copied the look of the modified Mateba but were probably resin cast.

Since then though, they seem to have abandoned that idea and are just mainly using stock weapons. Probably because the schedule for a weekly series is very tight and they decided the time, effort, and cost of modifying prop weapons wasn't worth doing on a regular basis. They do try to use "interesting" and futuristic lookng firearms and figure most folk won't notice when they use a gun that's actually in production. Heck, they had Starbuck drive a stock Humm-Vee in one episode. If you can swallow that, th use of a Berretta CX 4 is find.

One exception to the stock guns being used is the FN Five-Seven. They added an underbarrel "grenade launcher" that you use to launch the armor piercing rounds. This was a big plot point in the episode where the Cylons landed the raiding party in the Galactica.

The other thing using standard guns and props does is help cement the "reality" of the show in the viewers mind. Familiar props help establish that these are people like us. It sounds counter-intuitive, but it makes it easier for the viewer to accept the other elements of the show.
 
I think they use a Vektor CP1 for their military issue pistol. Here's a pic:

vector_cp1.jpg


Sure it's just a TV show, but it's still fun to talk about the guns they use.:D
 
zerosignal said:
In the one episode on Kobol, Richard Hatch's friend was carrying 2 four-barrel dillingers. I'll have to go back and take a look at the CZ-52, don't remember seeing it.
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Richard Hatch...? I think they're talking about the new series, not the cheesy thing from the 70's...?
 
Flashpoint said:
Seen some BSG for the first time tonight. I feel asleep watching "John Doe" and woke up to BSG. I just assumed there was something in the plot that accounted for the old guns being used on a space ship:scrutiny: So really, what's up with that? At least on SG-1 it's suppose to be present day US military.
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The new Galactica also uses old military hardened phones on the ship. I believe the idea was that the ship itself was outmoded and about to retire, sort of like an Iowa-class battleship...but it turned out to be sturdier than the newer ones.

I kind of like the allusions, myself. The "new" Vipers have a cockpit like a Stealth, and the "pulled from the museum" ones have a cockpit like a Vietnam-era fighter.

Nice touch. That, and Star Trek made the mistake of arming people with wimpy dustbusters. I like the fact that they realize that people who fight are going to want a gun that fits in the human hand for good balance (hence the shape of a gun!), is sturdy, no-nonsense, and that they can field-strip and maintain. So I'd call, in a fiction sense, the design of the guns as a sort of convergent evolution. That basically any race just like ours would end up with hand weapons that looked and operated a lot like our pistols and rifles, because form follows function.

Farscape, once, did another nice little bit. A human alien warrior, trained since birth, used to "energy weapons", simply studied and then was able to use what looked like an AR here without problems, no stupid "your weapons are strange" silliness, she just had to figure out the operation.
 
Manedwolf said:
Richard Hatch...? I think they're talking about the new series, not the cheesy thing from the 70's...?
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Richard Hatch has had several appearances in the current BSG. He's not a regular, but he's been on there maybe 3-4 shows. He started off playing a prisoner leading a rebellion on a prison ship and now he's a representative in their reformed government.
 
SouthpawShootr said:
Richard Hatch has had several appearances in the current BSG. He's not a regular, but he's been on there maybe 3-4 shows. He started off playing a prisoner leading a rebellion on a prison ship and now he's a representative in their reformed government.
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Yup, Hatch's character was with the landing party on Kobol. I'm definitely talking about the new series. I've never even seen the original.
 
Everything is outdated because the cylons can control ANYTHING hi-tech. As for the guns i think the issue gun is still the mateba. And I like the way they just assume the civies will be armed. Seems like every civilian has a gun of some sort. As for why they were packing a peice on a space trip i don't know.
 
The navigational system designed by Baltar had a security hole; the Cylons were able to hack it and disable the ships using it, which is why the Galactica and its older fighters were the only ones who survived the initial assault. They patched the hole, but Adama doesn't trust networked computers.

I really need to get season 2 from Netflix so I can get caught up. I can't manage to see it on Fri. night when it airs.

So that was a grenade launcher on the bottom of the pilot pistols? I wondered what was so freakin' effective on those Cylons.
 
The new series is a re-imagination of the old one. It is set in "another time, another place" but is deliberately designed to be very similar to our current world. Rather than going for swoopy ray guns and high-tech gizmos and goofy names and wiz-bang technology, they have things that are recognizable to viewers, so that they can identify with the characters in the show, rather than feeling distant and disconnected from them (a la Star Trek).

Running with the ideas that:

1. Modern real-world small arms tech is about as far developed as gunpowder-based tech is going to get

and

2. There is nothing that can practically replace gunpowder-based projectile weapons on a personal-weapon level

it makes sense that BSG's guns would look a lot like ours.

I've seen...

FNP90
FN57
Vektor
Mateba-esque sidearms
Glock
UMP
Skorpion
Storm
CZ52
Makarov
COP357

...probably a few more I'm forgetting. It is worth noting that the guns don't seem to be related to their real-world counterparts in terms of power. As in, the Storm (the main gun of Galactica's marines) appears to be a full-powered rifle as opposed to a pistol-caliber carbine. Not sure about the UMP (the main gun of Pegasus' marines).

Mike
 
>>>>>>>>but Adama doesn't trust networked computers.>>>>>>>>>>

Reminds me of S. M Stirling's trilogy of novels about the Draka. IMHO these would make a great movie, but for reasons of political correctness, I doubt if any one ever actually does so.

Stirling goes to great lengths to describe technology in his alternate history. He even provides an appendix with economic statistics and a history of weapons development in the Draka timeline.

From close quarters combat on the ground to combat between space ships he does an excellent job of describing a time that never was. The world of the Draka is a nice place to visit, but I would not want to live there!

My God! He's carrying a T5!
 
Richard Hatch...? I think they're talking about the new series, not the cheesy thing from the 70's...?
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They're talking about the cheesy thing from the present.

(You know, the one that owes its existence to the original from the '70s.)

:neener:
 
All i can tell is that the pistols they use are very small caliber.

I always figured the triangles roundish thing on the bottom was the magazine (cylindrical mag like a Bizon or Calico)

Sort of like the handgun the helghast use from killzone.
 
torpid said:
They're talking about the cheesy thing from the present.

(You know, the one that owes its existence to the original from the '70s.)

:neener:
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Heh. Have you watched it? The show is many things, but cheesy is not an adjective I would apply to it (and I avoid most sci-fi due to the high lactose content).

Mike
 
The pistols are the FN little guy companion to the FN90. Forgot the number.
The triangle thing on the bottom is a mini grenade launcher developed for the robot like Cylons.

Interestingly, compare the show to SG1 - they use FN90 long arms (but see below) and M9 Beretta pistols. BSG uses FN pistol and Beretta long arms.

However, just recently I think I saw SG-1 move to the HK little PDW and 223 rifles. Wonder if companies try to get sci-fi shows to product place their guns? Like Bud in movies.
 
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