Guns of Iron Man

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Anyone else pick up the fact that most of the guns in Iron Man that were supposedly made by the main character's "advanced" weapons company were mostly all H&K's? I hate to nit pick a fantastic movie, seriously I thought Iron Man was one heck of a good flick. However you'd think they would go the extra mile with such a big budget film and make all the small arms that Stark's company manufactures look a little more unusual and less recognizable. When Stark's character mentions that all the terrorists are armed with his weapons I noticed they mostly all carrying G36's and UMP's.

Ok sure these guns all look futuristic and all but Stark's company was supposed to be the most "advanced" weapons manufacturer. So maybe they should have disguised the guns a little to make them look a little less recognizable to us gun educated folk.

I guess I shouldn't let this little detail bother me, the movie was great and that's all that really matters.
 
I haven't seen it, but you have to realize, you were the only dude in the theater that realized that they weren't real-life plasma-phased rifles in the 40-watt range. :)

That and the guy in charge of picking out the guns would be reading this and just laughing all the way to the bank. I could have done that job!!! :banghead:
 
Lots of G-36s

bad guys also had a few KAC-railed M4s. All equipped with a diverse smattering of trijicons, eotechs and aimpoints. VFGs all around. Highest speed, lowest drag terrorists on the silver screen to date. Gun handling seemed pretty good too, fingers off triggers and what not, though as I recall the only good guys using recognizable firearms were airmen. Browning held his own against the prototype suit. err, thats all I noticed. Pretty fun movie; couldn't tell you about the dialog though, too busy looking at the guns:scrutiny:
 
Don't think Stark supplied small arms. They were more into the high-end guided weapons systems, no? More cash in that anyway. Which means that whoever is supplying the Ten Rings in that reality clearly took Mall Ninja 101 with Hk Appreciation Studies as an elective.

Where would be the drama in people shooting at the hi-tek armour with boring ol' Kalashnikovs, anyway? ;)
 
It's an alternate reality. HK might not exist and Stark might have designed those small arms (which were the weapons he was referencing with his comments).
 
I thought the movie was great, it was one of those rare comic book movies that had good acting as well as good effects. It didn't go too far off the deep end of unreality either, although I'd really like to know what the prototype's armor was made out of that could withstand a .50 cal. I'd also think he'd be a little more careful about incoming fire considering his helmet had eye and mouth holes :uhoh:, but I guess at least a little suspension of disbelief is in order.
 
Spoilers off the port bow!

I think the gold/titanium composite resisting a 125mm round was probably a bit unrealistic. ;)

Then again, who cares? It's the best comic to movie translation yet!

The best part was how they resolved the issue of how a man shaped object can have controlled flight.
 
there was a Galil in there too, the Micro one.

the original suit, made from missile casings made me think, no way it would stop a bullet. but then when i saw people gettin whooped on, i managed to suspend my skepticism
 
the original suit, made from missile casings made me think, no way it would stop a bullet. but then when i saw people gettin whooped on, i managed to suspend my skepticism
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Mabye the ARC reactor provided sufficient power for him to electromagnetically increase the bonding force of the atoms composing the casing material, thereby increasing the strength of the material.

We sci-fi nuts can always rationalize things, can't we? And without using Star Trek technobabble. :)
 
However you'd think they would go the extra mile with such a big budget film and make all the small arms that Stark's company manufactures look a little more unusual and less recognizable.
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You have two things happening here.

One: it takes a whole lot of time and money to manufacture, or even disguise already manufactured weapons, that will actually shoot blanks and work for a movie.

Two: you can bet that H&K supplied those weapons knowing that people who are avid shooters would know who made them. It's called product sponsorship.

Ever notice that the cars involved in chase scenes in movies tend to be of one particular make? That's because Chrysler, Ford, or GM supplied the vehicles to get the advertisement. Same thing goes when your favorite movie star tips back a Bud, Pepsie, or Coke on screen.

I guess it was just a matter of time before H&K, or GLOCK, or one of the others took the same road with the movie industry.
 
Don't forget that the military often has a role in these movies. Having a general or two (or officers who might someday reach flag rank) thinking the weapons are "cool" can be a leg up in future procurements.

Not all HK fans are Rainbow Six fanboys. As the XM8 trials show, some wear Army green.
 
Don't think Stark supplied small arms. They were more into the high-end guided weapons systems, no?
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Exactly. Tony Stark is almost as fond of high technology as he is of his drink. Honestly I paid zero attention to the small arms (I went in mostly worried about how they'd handle the suit), though I may be seeing it again today with a different set of friends so I can pay more attention to them.
 
Again with the spoilers.

Exactly. Tony Stark is almost as fond of high technology as he is of his drink. Honestly I paid zero attention to the small arms (I went in mostly worried about how they'd handle the suit), though I may be seeing it again today with a different set of friends so I can pay more attention to them.
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I think Stark (at the beginning) was interested in anything that made money for other projects. Besides, Stark's name is on the company so anything it produces, he sees as "his."

When Stark is in the cave, he looks at the terrorists and the weapons they are carrying and stated "those are my guns. How did you get my guns?" So, it seems definitive that he designed and/or his company manufactured the weapons.
 
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The British Army in “The Children of Men” movie also all had G36s, several dozen in some scenes. I assumed they were air soft, because:
- There are a lot of G36 air softs out there.
- They are cheaper for a prop company to supply then real firearms.
- No need to train the actors/extras in gun safety.
- The “bang” when they were fired all sounded the same, no matter where the rifle was on the set, so I assume it was added to the sound track after filming (like the “pew-pew” laser gun sounds added to the “Star Wars” sound tracks.)
- “The Children of Men” was filmed in England, where (as you know) real firearms are hard to come by.

Maybe the “Ironman” rifles were airsofts?
 
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The “bang” when they were fired all sounded the same, no matter where the rifle was on the set, so I assume it was added to the sound track after filming (line the “pew-pew” laser gun sounds added to the “Star Wars” sound tracks.)
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Most sounds are added after the fact, as any loud enough to be heard in primary production will drown out the actors. Of course, with some actors, that would be a good thing.

Another reason for airsoft is, as you alluded to, the inability to acquire the real thing. Some gun laws make exceptions for movie production, while others do not.

At least airsoft weapons aren't as obviously fake as some of the zinc movie guns out there, like the Beretta 92 seen in a lot of the Grade F movies, with the slide and barrel that are clearly one piece.
 
I was unimpressed with the movie. Apparently while at MIT, Tony Stark learned how to be a blacksmith. And not a single rifle round penetrated the first suit. That's some serious steel.

X-Men and Spider-Man were infinitely better.
 
Once again, it's only a movie based on a comic book.

It's not real.

Real weapons typically don't have the manufacturer's name painted on the side of them when deployed into battlezones.

So far real humans can't smelt palladium in a cave and get energy out of it.

It's a movie. It's a movie. It's a movie.
 
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