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Let's see, you spray a can of brake cleaner into your car brakes and you think it'll burn right thru the rubber tire, plastic valve stems and plastic wheel covers? Right!
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I wouldn't know about this. Most people remove their wheel covers and tires w/valve stems to work on and clean their brakes.

Some people don't like to use their brains...
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And before you get your bowels in an uproar and maybe get a false reading from you gut, would you please answer my question? It was asked in earnest and I would like an honest answer. Which brake cleaner? The ones that I've looked at say that care should be taken to not get the stuff on rubber hoses/fittings and plastic. What brand and should you use the non-chlorinated or chlorinated type?
 
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do NOT use brake cleaner on plastics

Not worth the risk. Most old style (chlorinated) brake cleaners will melt plastics in a heartbeat. Lots of years in automotive and an experience with a cz70 grip taught me this. :eek:

The newer non chlorinated cleaners might not be as bad but is it really worth the risk?

On unpainted metal, no problems works like a charm. Any chance of plastic or wood exposure...use something else or strip it first.
 
Oh and yes brake cleaner will melt wheel covers

Had to replace more than one for customers when one of my guys screwed up.

Rubber, like tires and valvestems, will survive though it will deteriorate over time.

Plus now many shops have gone to a water and soap based system like the Birdbath as they're safer for the tech and anything else the old style stuff gets on.

Want some real fun try brake fluid on a hot painted surface...the bubbling starts in minutes. :evil:
 
Even the newest brake cleaners will "haze" some plastics if it doesn't outright melt them.
Fortunately it wasn't gun related when I noticed this, rather it was a clear fuel filter bowl for a small diesel engine. It isn't clear anymore, but translucent.
 
Let's see, you spray a can of brake cleaner into your car brakes and you think it'll burn right thru the rubber tire, plastic valve stems and plastic wheel covers? Right!

Brake cleaner removes carbon build-up and degreases metal. What does "gunscrubber" do? You really think Birchwood Casey has a chemical research lab somewhere?

Some people don't like to use their brains...
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Spend $600-800 on a pistol and your willing to risk ruining grips or other plastic parts to save a few bucks? Real bright.
 
Nope

Take the grips off before you use brake cleaner. Two screws, easy.

Gunscrubber is a rip off. There are brake cleaners out there that are identical for one quarter the cost.
 
Used to use it, but the whole "This product contains chemicals KNOWN to cause cancer" label scared me off. Remington makes a Shotgun Cleaner/Degreaser that contains NO carcinogens. For the extra few bucks, I'd rather not handle cancer causing material. Big can costs like 7 bucks.
 
Almost every oil based paint and pretty much anything that contains petroleum that I use in the shop says it has ingredients known by the PRK to cause cancer.

Unless you inhale it or swallow it it takes prolonged exposure to soak into the skin and cause cancer.

I know I really live on the edge but I don't wear gloves or a mask when I use WD-40. OMG. I do usually wear protective eyewear when spraying solvents though.

Do it outside and wash your hands well and try to limit skin exposure to these naughty chemicals.
 
So Gunscrubber costs a few bucks (if that much) more than brake cleaner. BIG Deal. How much of it do you go through?

I'll bet there is a big savings there. I could have retired years ago. :rolleyes:
 
Like I've asked before and no one has yet given me an answer.

What is the brand name of the brake cleaner that is identical to Birchwood Casey Synthetic Gunscrubber? I'd like to give it a test drive.

All the brake cleaner that I've managed to find in WalMart, Advance Auto, Auto Zone and O'reily's has warnings against getting the stuff on rubber hoses and other rubber items, plastic or paint. Not all have all three warnings but all have at least one or two of them. So which brand are you advocating?
 
Almost every oil based paint and pretty much anything that contains petroleum that I use in the shop says it has ingredients known by the PRK to cause cancer
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All I know is that the Remington product specifically says they do not use the ingredients known to cause cancer. When I clean my guns, I try to use gloves, but my hands sweat and it is just uncomfortable. I have pretty much switched to the newer, biodegradeable, safer products.

I still do use Hoppes #9, though.
 
The main ingredients in the Synthetic Safe Gunscrubber are Isopropyl Alcohol and Hexane

Find one with those same ingredients, and you're good to go.
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What kind of answer is that? In other words, you just roar in these forums for the sake of hearing your own mouth roar - you don't really know what you're talking about. If you really knew what you are professing in this thread, you could give me a brand name brake cleaner without hesitation.

NOTE: I can't find those ingredients listed on the can of Birchwood Casey Synthetic Gunscrubber.
 
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What kind of answer is that? In other words, you just roar in these forums for the sake of hearing your own mouth roar - you don't really know what you're talking about. If you really knew what you are professing in this thread, you could give me a brand name brake cleaner without hesitation.
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I like hearing my own mouth roar. :neener: That's a new one.

Start looking at MSDS sheets online. I am not going to do it for you.
 
Start looking at MSDS sheets online. I am not going to do it for you
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Hey, you're the one saying that brake cleaner is identical to Birchwood Casey Synthetic Gun Scrubber, not me. I've been trying to show you that may not be true in all cases. You're the one who needs to read MSDS sheets before providing "expert" advice to the forum.

Birchwood Casey Synthetic Gun Scrubber is safe on plastic, rubber and wood finishes. I've been asking you to show me the brake cleaner that is identical to that; however, you keep doing the side-step.

I like hearing my own mouth roar. That's a new one.
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Not particularly as good quality.


EDIT: Altered the one sentence to make it other than definite. There may be a brake cleaner that is identical to BC Synthetic Gun Scrubber; however, Mr. Atblis hasn't found it yet and doesn't seem to be interested in researching the facts to prove his blanket statement that brake cleaner is identical to BC Synthetic Gun Scrubber. I have been looking and I cannot find the identical stuff - yet.
 
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Another good cleaner is CRC QD Electronic Cleaner. I use it on guns and cameras and some of the cameras have plastic gears. It is advertised to be safe on plastics. The main ingredients are methanol and hexane. Cleans and dries fast. Available at most Auto parts stores. I do not recommend any of you spray this on your cameras. I am a camera technician and know when and where to spray. Guns are tougher than cameras.
 
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So I've learned a few things here.

1. Gunscrubber and generic brake cleaner are one and the same. Brake cleaner is much cheaper.

2. Gunscrubber/Brake Cleaner may harm some plastics, and will certainly harm woods with fine finishes and painted surfaces.


3. Some people can't impart what knowledge they have without trying to make others feel stupid, and in doing so, reveal what kind of individuals they really are:

Some people don't like to use their brains...
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Real bright.
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There's a reason this forum is called "The High Road".
 
"Why pay the extra $6, when I can walk literally 50ft and buy the exact same thing?"

Why not, I have a job and too much money.

Really.

John
 
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