Gunshop Observations

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#1 Guy comes into the propietor of shop. Goes off on fact can not figure out while he is having misfired.......he was using LR primers in 44 Magnum cases.....he asserts that using LR primers is just fine cause people use SR primers in 38 Super etc.....
#2 Guy comes in states he is new to reloading....has new Rem 700 SPS Varmint 243.....wants neck turning equipment, wants whole slew of bushings for Type S Dies, wants competition shell holders.....Owner counsels noob.....ask if he has fired a shot from the gun?......well no.....:banghead:
Tells the guy that buying some Lapua 243 brass and going and shooting some starting loads would be prudent before doing any work.....guy goes on that he needs all that stuff..........FOR DUMB!
 
I find gunshops highly entertaining, and NOT very informative for the most part.

I see the craziest **** in an otherwise very nice glock leaning store here in Orlando. The owner and his staff are pretty knowledgeable about glock products and that's honestly what they specialize in, but WOW, the people coming in are something else to put it mildly.

Many a gunshop is a good place to find people that shouldn't be allowed to own guns period.
 
Have had a few weird experiences in gun shops latley. One guy came in looking for ammo. The owner hands him two boxes of .223 winchester bulk and said he had a limit of two boxes right now. The customer gets pissed and starts ranting and raving and threatining the owner. Going off about the owner violating his rights blah blah blah. The lady who looked more like a little boy starts going off to. I honestly removed my purchases from my strong side and took a semi defendable position thinking things were going to go bad. Have ran into alot of idiots that I think are hording MRE's along with there ammo.:uhoh:
 
If someone acts belligerent in my place I stop them, tell them they ahve 5 seconds to leave or the police will be here to escort them from my property. So far I've only had to do this once.
 
I recently had somewhere between 10-15 gallon of brass by the front door of where I work waiting for a friend to come pick up. I met a couple of nice shooters from them seeing the brass & inquiring about it. Then I had one guy that proceeded to let me know exactly what my rifle needs to start shooting well. He has a friend that bought a scope took it apart, declared it high quality, reassembled it and gets excellent results with it, shooting nickel sized groups @ 300 yards with a .22

I don't work in a gun shop.
 
I was at a gun shop once and a elderly couple came in and wanted a self defense pistol. The clerk showed them a 38. She asked about recoil. The clerk said that if she was worried about recoil, she should get a 22. He said "It won't kill anyone, but will make them stop". I just stood there shaking my head.
 
That can happen if all the conditions are right. I've seen it on military rifle ranges early in the morning when humidity is very high.

You can often see bullet disturbances in the air through a high power spotting scope while setting behind the shooter.

The "vapor trail" is similar to the plums that come of a jet fighters wing tips when pulling high G maneuvers.

A bullet leaves a low pressure area behind it and moisture in the air can condense momentarily leaving a slight trail you can see through a spotting scope.

But it certainly doesn't take a Lazzeroni to do it.
A wimpy little 30-06 or .308 match rifle can do it too!

rc
 
RCMODEL,
I was thinking the same thing having spent almost 30 years in the military I've seen some strange things to include 16inch shells launched from a Battleship. If you looked in the right place you could see them flying through the air, of course they are a little bit bigger than even a Lazzeroni.
 
Let's be honest, alot more people are getting into firearms and reloading for that part. Unless you have the benefit of friends who know what they're talking about to help guide you, you're on your own (and then you sure as s--- hope he knows what he's talking about). A quick search of the internet will quickly bring up stories of gunshop owners who allegedly tried to screw somebody. Another search will tell you to do it this way and another will tell you that if you do you'll shoot your eye out and you'll get prostate cancer to boot. Plus they're all buying because Zero, some call him Obama has been a man of his word and he has been antigun for some time. So they're pretty much a tennisball bouncing between two ears at bout 500 mph in their ability to think.

In fact some of those moments shared above (corrected from below) sound like me 20 years ago, and some maybe a little more recent lol.
 
Setup your spotting scope behind the shooter and take it slightly out of focus (like you are reading mirage) and you should be able to see it pretty easy at extended ranges, especially on cold/cool days. Learn what to look for and you can call your buddies shots before they make it to the target.
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That's how we spot rounds to walk them on target when shooting at long range. Pretty fun to call a hit at 1200y and then hear the bell.

"Shooter on target, confirmed, send it, BOOM,......hit...........CLANG"
 
Going to the gunshop is pretty entertaining. It's a consistent hub for tall tales, misinformation, new shooters, and "experts". I try to be polite to the "experts". All they really want is a little attention. They always seem to know someone who has shot an amazing group; or what bullet and load is going to work the best in your rifle; and they also "know" someone who was the champion of a competition in 1980-something. I'm still working on just saying "thank you" and going about my business.
 
Setup your spotting scope behind the shooter and take it slightly out of focus (like you are reading mirage) and you should be able to see it pretty easy at extended ranges, especially on cold/cool days. Learn what to look for and you can call your buddies shots before they make it to the target.
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+1. In my old unit we called it "reading trace".
 
I think this is pretty common and lots of you guys have probably experienced this as well, but when you're standing with the sun at your back and more or less looking downrange while a buddy is shooting, you can also see the bullets in flight...pretty cool and a neat way to spot. Used to do this when shooting 100 yards or so with .44s...
 
I can see the 45 colt bullets going downrange with the sun going down to our backs but don't seem to see it when I am the shooter. The recoil must be jarring my brain at the moment of exit downrange. Always figured it was a combo of BIG SLOW bullet and superb eyesight when I was younger.

PS Never was real good with that math stuff anyhow.
 
The strangest "tale" I heard was that the reason a gun fired was that the thing in the back hit the shell so hard the thingie in the front flew out the tube thing.

No need for primers and powder, folks, just get a bigger spring for that thing in the back.

Jim
 
Guy walks into gunstore and asks one of the employees about reloading equipment. He explains that he has a 9mm hand gun and wants to reload ammo for it rather than rely on somewhat instable supply and higher prices of commercial ammo. He said he shoots about 50 - 100 rounds a month.

They Gun Store salesman takes him to the back of the store where the reloading presses are located:

Customer: What about LEE presses?

Salesman: No, you don't want LEE, their stuff is Junk. Not even worth looking at.

Customer: So what do you recommend.

Salesman: You should look at this Dillon 650. I can get you into this press for about $600, plus about $300 more in needed accessories.

Salesman then goes into all the extra stuff the guy would need to purchase. (Vibrating Brass Cleaners, Case Trimmers, extra Base Plates, etc).

A few minutes later I hear the customer explain to his friend that had come in with him, "Looks like reloading is out of my price range.... over $1000 just to get started.... looks like we'll by buying our ammo.


It was all I could do to keep my mouth shut.
 
I would have talked to the guy in the parking lot and told him about the LCT package from Kemp's shop. $250 and you just need components and a manual.
 
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