GWB a "domestic enemy"?

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interesting opinion, anybody agree? cut out the stuff on Dean, I don't think he's as pro-gun as this author seems to think, and Worden has some great points.

http://www.sierratimes.com/03/12/05/ar_carlworden.htm
President Howard Dean
Carl F. Worden

When I wrote, “Another One-Termer Like Dad?� several months ago, I began my treatise with the words, “If the Democrats play their cards right, and if President George W. Bush extends the federal Assault Weapon Ban that was signed into law by former President Bill Clinton, then I am going to predict that George W. Bush will be a one-term war-hero president just like his father.�

Well, whether by hook or crook, and whether intended or not, the Democrats are playing their cards right. That article and my predictions were right on the money, even to extent that I foretold, “If the Democrats do something truly stupid, like run a raving liberal like Al Gore or Hillary Clinton for president, then Bush 43 has maybe an even chance. But if the Democrats run a moderate, southern pro-gun candidate who promises not to use the Constitution as toilet paper, then I can predict with complete confidence that a Democrat, or possibly even a third-party candidate, will occupy the White House after the next presidential election.�

Get ready for President Howard Dean. No he’s not a moderate, southern pro-gun candidate. Instead, he’s a former Vermont governor from the north. Everything else falls right into line: He is a moderate Democrat who is also a pro-gun candidate who promises not to use the Constitution as toilet paper.

Dean is adamantly against the war in Iraq. Dean is conservatively pro-gun. Dean is soft on abortion and he is a moderate Democrat socialist to the extent that he believes government is responsible for taking care of those who are either mentally or physically unable to care for themselves. In that light, he’s the perfect candidate to take residence in the White House following the coming November elections.

Unless Howard Dean screws up in some spectacular way, or unless Dean dies in another suspicious airplane accident, Howard Dean will be the next president of the United States. Mark my words.

Dean is the perfect candidate for election in 2004. George W. Bush has divided the Republican Party into two distinct groups. They comprise the phony and fascist Neo-Conservatives who mistakenly embraced the perpetually wrong philosophy that the ends justify the means, ala Clinton. To them, if Clinton could get away with it, why shouldn’t they? Their error has manifested itself via a disastrous war on Iraq that was never constitutionally declared by Congress, and the blatantly and irrefutably unconstitutional Patriot Act.

Both the moderate Democrats and the true American Christian conservatives have found themselves in surprising and stunning agreement on these issues.

If you leave out religious conviction ala the abortion debate, which is entirely the province of the judiciary at this time anyway, and hone in on constitutional principle only, moderate Democrats and right-wing, true Christian conservatives, are in unexpected agreement: We have yet another Viet Nam on our hands, and our kids are being unnecessarily killed as a result of it.

History will prove those kids died in vain, just like all those 58,000 kids killed in Viet Nam: Viet Nam is still a communist nation, and we have reinstated full diplomatic and trade relations with them. In that light, every one of those kids died for NOTHING, and the same will be said of those being killed right now in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The true American conservatives who once commanded the Republican Party, are horrified by what Bush has done, and many of them, including myself, have vowed never to support Bush again, even if we have to vote for a third party candidate that has little chance of winning.

To the truly committed, truly Christian conservative, George W. Bush is a traitor, a completely phony Christian, and just another politician who placed his left hand on the Bible, raised his right hand to God, and swore to uphold and defend a Constitution he had every intention of violating – if the “situation� warranted it.

If there is one thing that true conservatives share, it is their solid and unwavering conviction to do what is both lawful and right, both under the law, and in the eyes of our God. In that light, our current president is woefully unfaithful, and in fact, treasonous to our Constitution.

A president who personally declares a United States citizen an enemy combatant, ineligible for legal counsel or to face his accusers and their evidence against him, even though he was arrested on U.S. soil and never carried a weapon against U.S. forces or their allies, is a domestic enemy of the people of the United States. True Christian conservatives understood that the moment he issued the order.

True Americans with solid constitutional convictions were outraged by that, and they immediately knew they had a problem in the White House. I don’t know what Howard Dean’s religious convictions, if any, hold to. But it doesn’t matter in this case. Here we have a pro-gun candidate who is against this disastrous war in Iraq, and he is a candidate intent on principle to uphold he personal convictions. I like him, and for the first time in my life, I will vote for a Democrat, Howard Dean, to be my next president next November.

If he’s still alive.

Carl F. Worden
 
True Americans with solid constitutional convictions were outraged by that, and they immediately knew they had a problem in the White House. I don’t know what Howard Dean’s religious convictions, if any, hold to. But it doesn’t matter in this case. Here we have a pro-gun candidate who is against this disastrous war in Iraq, and he is a candidate intent on principle to uphold he personal convictions.

Huh?

:barf:
 
Bush blew it for me when he endorsed the Medicare drug bill that recently passed the Conress. He is just another big government liberal masquerading in neo-conservative clothing.

JFK makes Bush look like a flaming liberal. Dean won't be any worse (or actually, any different) than Bush on any major issue.
 
To the truly committed, truly Christian conservative, George W. Bush is a traitor, a completely phony Christian, and just another politician who placed his left hand on the Bible, raised his right hand to God, and swore to uphold and defend a Constitution he had every intention of violating – if the “situation� warranted it.

Bush's Christianity is one of the few things that impress me about him as being sincerely held. I don't know of very many Christian conservatives who doubt Bush's faith.

Dean's supporters should reconsider this line of attack IMO. It's going to be seen as an attack on all Christian conservatives faith since no evidence of insincerity on Bush's part has been shown, beyond the usual leftist arm waving gibberish about the "immoral war" and "hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqi babies." This line of attack will backfire on Dean.

As far as Dean's pro-RKBA credentials go, they are pretty thin and substantially worse than Bush's. Dean doesn't oppose any gun law now in existance. Bush can at least point to support for the lawsuit pre-emption bill that will be opposed in the Dem party platform next fall, and his Justice Departments explicit endorsement of the 2nd as an individual right.

This article is just the usual, tired, anti-Bush rant that assumes I'm going to accept every one of it's shrill pronouncements at face value.

I will vote for a Democrat, Howard Dean, to be my next president next November. If he is still alive

I think somebody's been self-medicating again.

History will prove those kids died in vain, just like all those 58,000 kids killed in Viet Nam: Viet Nam is still a communist nation, and we have reinstated full diplomatic and trade relations with them. In that light, every one of those kids died for NOTHING, and the same will be said of those being killed right now in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Nothing? other than driving Bin-Laden out, shutting down his terrorist bases, and freeing the Afghani's from Taliban hell? I wonder if the author ever saw the videos of the Taliban executions held in a Kabul soccar stadium, of women killed for the crime of leaving their homes to seek food without a male escort, or wearing a head scarf that was too colorfull, etc...

Dems are going to have to do better than this if they want my vote.
 
except that it comes froma conservative not a liberal or a Dem, if it had, I wouldn't have wasted your time.
 
To the author, not the poster...

Thank you for taking it upon yourself to speak on behalf of true Christian conservatives. :rolleyes:

In the future, do us all a favor and keep your opinion associated with yourself, because I certainly do not wish to be associated with it.
 
except that it comes froma conservative not a liberal or a Dem, if it had, I wouldn't have wasted your time.

Sorry, I don't believe this person is a conservative, Christian or otherwise.

Irregardless, he can call himself a cab if he wants to, it doesn't change the fact that:

1. He's clearly nuts, and:

2. He hasn't given me any reason to vote for Dean over Bush.

All this person is trying to do is declare that if one is a "True Christian Conservative" (unlike anyone who disagrees with him on important matters of Christian doctrine like the rise in discretionary spending under Bush) they must of necessity vote for Howie Dean.

huh?

To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, Well, I know there must be a pony in here somewhere...
 
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Article just goes to show you can also pump bilge from a ship's hull.

Unless Howard Dean screws up in some spectacular way, or unless Dean dies in another suspicious airplane accident, Howard Dean will be the next president of the United States. Mark my words.
Marked. It is a common historical factoid that a dying ideology tends to be more extreme than when it was in its salad days. American liberalism (AKA German socialism) is in trouble. It is in the process of destroying itself. Dubya just happens to be at the plate.

Howard Dean merely gives voice to the more malignant forms of American liberalism. He will have one bodacious problem coming back to the center in an attempt to get elected. Combine that with a serious problem with anger and you've got the makings of a public immolation at some point in the future. Dean is what I call a "self correcting problem" for spinelessrepublicans. He will cease being a problem for Dubya's reelection. He will either self-destruct or Clinton, Clinton, and Soros will move him out of the way.

If Dean makes it to the nomination a 50-0 skunk is a real possibility.
 
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