Had an intersestng FTF with my G26 today. Pics included.

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Well, I was trying to get through my usual 200 round range session today and had an FTF. I was like "ah ????". I thought I was shooting my old jammomatic Kimber that I've long since sold. I tried to slap the rear of the slide to get it to go into battery but it wouldn't budge. I pulled the slide back and ejected the round to look at it. There was a signifigant piece of the case that was stripped downd the side and tucked under the bullet. I was wondering how in the hell my glock did that but another shooter at the range came over and we concluded that it came that way from the factory. As you can see in the pics, the bottom on the bullet is dented which could only come from the downward force of seating the bullet which also folded the case inward in the process. If my gun did that, I would assume that the metal on the case of the round would be stripped or folded outward and there would be no dammage to the bottom of the bullet. BTW, I was shooting the WWB 115gr. FMJ from wal-mart. here are some pics.
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Flip.
 
This has happened to me before (just once though) and with WWB 9mm. I forget what I was shooting (more likely than not, it was my S&W 5946) but I know for a fact that the cartridge left the manufacturer in this condition b/c I noticed it as I was loading the mags. The ammo was purchased the preceding day at Wally World. QC guys, QC. :eek:
 
Wow, it's a good thing that didn't chamber. That might have been painful and expensive. :eek:

Does bring up an important safety point, though. Pay attention when you are loading magazines. If you are chatting with friends and just popping rounds in the mag without looking, you might miss something like that.
 
I've had defective WWB 9mm rounds too. Never like that, but I've seen rounds that looked like they were smashed and deformed by a machine. I always look at each round while loading now.
 
No pistol recoil spring has the power to do that; the round came from the factory that way. WWB is made in an almost fully automated plant with little or no inspection of the product. I have seen several reports of missing primers, missing flash holes, and upside down primers, as well as conditions like that shown. Inspection can catch most goofs, but something like a missing flash hole cannot be discovered until too late.

The best policy is to use cheap ammo for practice, but go to better stuff for serious purposes. And use enough of the good stuff to be sure it will work if/when you need it.

Jim
 
I've never had a round that bad with Wolf or Barnaul ammo :)

Strange, and something to be concerned about that you didn't notice it when loading the mags.

--wally.
 
"Strange, and something to be concerned about that you didn't notice it when loading the mags"

I thought about that too. Ammo is something that we take for granted to be right though. I'm surprised that I didn't catch that before loading it up into my mag. I'm glad my gun did.

Flip.
 
I've fired about 5-6000 Wally's WWB and never had a problem. I bought 2 boxes of A-Merc to try (stupid) and had 2 just like yours. Fortunately I noticed them before loading into mags.
 
Check your ammunition as you load it, folks ... These things sometimes happen with automated production.


Here's a W-W 147gr JHP one of our folks actually noticed while loading a magazine. Will wonders never cease? :D

The other day one of our folks got a click instead of a bang while qualifying with a rifle, and I picked up the round that was ejected onto the ground as the shooter cleared the rifle of the questionable round and continued shooting. Looking at it later, I saw that the primer was in the case backwards. Very precisely & perfectly inserted in the primer cup ... but still backwards.;)
 

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I had an IDENTICAL round to the initial pic this weekend. It was in a 100 round of WWB 9mm purchased last Friday.
 
I've done this myself.

It happens when the expanding process of handgun reloading is skipped in my case. Somehow wifey, who does the sizing & expanding, lets a few through each year. When I come along to seat the bullet the EXACT thing occurs as in the photos.

The bullet doesn't get started cleanly into the case. It then crushes part of it.
 
It doesn't just happen with 9mm either. I had a similiar problem with a 38 sp rnd, WWB from Walmart. It wouldn't load into the revolver's cylinder. Pays to inspect your ammo.
 
All ammunition used for personal defense should be looked over before loading it into a gun. Quality factory ammo especially in the premium loadngs is rarely defective but ever once in a great while I will see a bad round. Only squib load I have ever had in countless rounds of factory ammo I've shot though was a round of Armscor 22lr, not exactly what most people would load up for defense.
 
I know its a manufacturing error since I have done exactly the same thing when I failed to mouth bell my cases enough.
 
Sometimes the problems aren't as easy to see, as well ...

I have a few W-W & Rem .40 S&W cartridges out on my bench which have overly long cases. Juts barely so. The extra length isn't easily visible, especially not when they were sitting in the box trays, but they were just long enough to prevent the rounds from being chambered, and the prevent the slide from going completely into battery. The rounds are from the less expensive 'contact grade' duty ammunition lines of those manufacturers ...

Although, I was reading a magazine article about a .45 ACP test pistol, and how a Rem 185gr +P GS .45 ACP round gave the magazine article author the same problem last year. It apparently had a case that was too long, and the round wouldn't chamber in either of a couple of .45 pistols on hand.

When I placed several rounds next to each other on a flat surface, and carefully inspected the questionable rounds I encountered while shooting on the qualification range, I was finally able to observe the differences in the case lengths.

You just never know ...

If I remember right, many years ago W-W used to advertise that one of the benefits of the more expensive Silvertip line was that each and every round was 'chambered' in a gauge, as part of the production process, in order to check for proper dimensions. I wonder if that's still the case?

I've also seen more problems with handloaded ammunition than with factory ammunition ... and I see much more factory ammunition come through he range, too. I haven't personally handloaded for more than 20 years, though.
 
Ran into a box of WWB 9mm a while back that had one of the bullets seated backwards. Maybe a new type of wadcutter. :)
 
I had the same type of round in WWB 9mm 115 gr. Mine went part way into the chamber and locked up my G19 during an IDPA match. I do check all self defense ammo carefully. When in Nam, I used to take the barrel out of my issue 1911 and drop every round into the chamber before it was loaded into a magazine.
I have never had a bad round from ProLoad. I have had bad rounds from Rem. Wally World 100 value pack of Rem 180 jhp 40 cal gave me a squib load that lodged in the barrel of my G35. The second round was enlightening! The pressure swelled the bbl into the frame and locked up the gun. I did notice that my front sight disappeared. No other problems except heavy recoil. Probably has something to do with firing 360 gr of jhp.
 
I had a factory round like that from WW or UMC... it happens.

I've also used a 1911 barrel as a go-no go guide... problem is my 1917 has tighter chambers than my 1911... I had a several hundred rounds my 1917 Colt Revolver wouldn't fit.
 
uh... I am going to confess my stupidity here and say that I have no idea what "WWB" means... Winchester White box? If thats it, yay me! If its not, let me tell you, that ammo blows. I never had anything approaching the sort of problems that these pics show, but I had a ton of FtF over the course of about 250 rounds. Like every 3 shots or so, FtF. I have never been so upset with ammo in my life as I was with that stuff....

Timbo
 
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