Halloween gun thread. What if you live in a "haunted" house

[Doug.38PR]

This is a similar topic that was posted on S & T portion of THR but got closed because it strayed off topic.

Since it is getting near Halloween and since it was a fun subject, what if you live in a, so they say, haunted house. You hear creaks, footsteps, shutters slaming, doors slaming, crying, laughing and even transparent and solid appirations
One question to pose, how alert would this make you to real bad guys creaking and breaking in? Would you be likely to pass it off as a ghost?

You find an intruder in your house. BANG!!!!! BANG !!!!! Two .38 LHPs....go right through the intruder and through the wall. Police respond to shots fired.
What do you tell them? I shot at someone that was actually a ghost?

LEOs, question for you. How do you file such a report?

I personally don't believe in ghosts, I think that there are a lot of explainations for what people think they see and hear. Something is going on in many cases, but I don't think it's the spirt of some dead person going boo!!!.

Has anyone ever had to deal with such a situation? Or do you know anyone who has had to deal with such a situation.

 

[Manedwolf]

There was something on the news a while back about some of the National Guard troops bunked at an old girls school in New Orleans after Katrina being spooked by things, including a few reactions to intruders that turned out not to be there, and one seeing a young girl that wasn't there.

Was interesting, at least. These didn't seem like superstitious types.

And as for "What gun for ghosts", why, an backpack unlicenced nuclear accelerator, of course!

 

[ZeSpectre]

Hoo Yeah, Monster Hunting! <grin>

Sawed off double barrel.
Number One side loaded with kosher rock salt.
Number Two side loaded with "00" buck.

Trigger #1 - If it's a ghost, poof. If it's not a ghost the rock salt will still slow 'em down and you can trigger #2

Oh and remember to have a hurricaine lantern ready 'cause ghosts always make your flashlight fizzle.

Happy Halloween!

 

[Yakko]

Actually barrell #2 should be silver, you've gotta be prepared!

 

[gregthehand]

As far as LEO's I have a slightly funny storry about how one dealt with "it". This comes second hand from a cop I worked with (in a past LE life) that was not prone to lie, and we had to almost beat him to get us to tell the story. The department I worked at had been contracted to be the campus police at two local school districts. One of these school had an extremely old buiding that had been built over land where even older houses had once stood. One night at about 11pm-ish this deputy was patroling inside the old school, after a game b/c kids liked to sneak into the school and do stupid stuff. He had checked out that he was in the school, and was going down the main hallway. He told me he heard someone beat a drum, and play a trumpet in a very off-tone, and loud burst. He called it into dispatch that he had a possible problem on his hands, the dispatcher closed the channel, and got some other units on the way. The deputy un-locked the door to the bandhall (it only locked from the outside) and went into the bandhall with his weapon out, and flashlight in hand. This is when it got wierd. He says that he saw a trumpet suspended in air. When he focused his flashlight on it he at first thought it was just hanging br strings or something. He said he switched on the lights of the hall and when he did the trumpet still in air, played another long off note with no one even near and in air. He turned around, turned off the light, went into the hallway, left the building, called himself back in service and said the noise was just something falling over. He new if he tried to make something out of it people would call him nuts, and never believe him!

 

[Thefabulousfink]

Well If I fired at a ghost and the police were on their way, I would go down stairs and break a window or force open the back door. When the police arrive I would tell them that I was supprised in my bed and fired at the BG, the bullets didn't hit, and the BG took off (selective truth). The last thing I need is to be locked up in a psyc ward.

After the incident I would start loading up on equipment to fight ghosts (or at least keep them off my back). Holy water, blessed crucifix, rosery, and the Roman Catholic text on exorcism rites (I can't remember the exact name, but it is still in print by the Vatican).

That should cover the religious side, I would then start making silver bullets for my Webley in case non-ethereal guests show up. Salt is also considered a barrier against supernatural forces so I would use it to seal my room and also load up a few 12ga rounds with rock salt.

Now that I am armed to do battle with most supernatural forces; I would start doing research to figure out exactly what was haunting my house and what is the best way to get rid of it.

 

[junyo]

115 grain 9mm HPs, with a sterling silver jacket, and the hollow filled in with holy water soaked saw dust, and a crucifix engraved into the base. Lots of twenty round mags. Surefire daylight color balanced tac light. I'm think that anchors anything until ZeSpectre shows up with his shotgun.

 

[Manedwolf]

Bulletforge.com makes real silver bullets. Everything from .45 LC to .308 and 45-70.

 

[Doug.38PR]

As far as LEO's I have a slightly funny storry about how one dealt with "it". This comes second hand from a cop I worked with (in a past LE life) that was not prone to lie, and we had to almost beat him to get us to tell the story. The department I worked at had been contracted to be the campus police at two local school districts. One of these school had an extremely old buiding that had been built over land where even older houses had once stood. One night at about 11pm-ish this deputy was patroling inside the old school, after a game b/c kids liked to sneak into the school and do stupid stuff. He had checked out that he was in the school, and was going down the main hallway. He told me he heard someone beat a drum, and play a trumpet in a very off-tone, and loud burst. He called it into dispatch that he had a possible problem on his hands, the dispatcher closed the channel, and got some other units on the way. The deputy un-locked the door to the bandhall (it only locked from the outside) and went into the bandhall with his weapon out, and flashlight in hand. This is when it got wierd. He says that he saw a trumpet suspended in air. When he focused his flashlight on it he at first thought it was just hanging br strings or something. He said he switched on the lights of the hall and when he did the trumpet still in air, played another long off note with no one even near and in air. He turned around, turned off the light, went into the hallway, left the building, called himself back in service and said the noise was just something falling over. He new if he tried to make something out of it people would call him nuts, and never believe him!

There was something on the news a while back about some of the National Guard troops bunked at an old girls school in New Orleans after Katrina being spooked by things, including a few reactions to intruders that turned out not to be there, and one seeing a young girl that wasn't there.

Alright, this is what I want to hear. Good stories!!

 

[ZeSpectre]

makes ya pause

I had completelly forgotten this story until just now.

I had been an LEO for about two years when we got a call that someone had a burgler trapped inside their house. We respond and this quiet old lady calmly answers the door and invites us inside. She asks us if we want anything to drink and we decline and then ask her if she made the call.

Well you see a lightbulb go on and she says "oh yes I forgot, I think I've got him trapped but I'm not sure". So I ask her if she has a description and she says "oh yes, the usual, red skin, horns, black eyes".

WHAT?!?

"Um, maam, WHO are we talking about"?

"Oh", she says "The Devil!" I've got him trapped in the back bathroom, I think I do anyway".

Okay then

And then she leads us through this neat, quiet, little house to a back bathroom all the while telling us how "the devil" had tried to trick her but she got the drop on him and now he was trapped.

So we get to this door that is nailed shut with about 7 crosses nailed onto it and a whole row of prayer candles lined up in front. Bibles stacked to either side and rosaries (spelling? not catholic, sorry) strung across the doorway and all these bits of prayers written on the door with magic marker.

Soooo, we're more than a little spooked at this point I don't mind telling you because we're not sure WHAT the heck we're going to find on the other side of that door. At this point we call for more backup and a police chaplin as well.

Now the dispatcher wants to know why we need a chaplin so we're calling in landline to explain and then the jokes start...until the other units arrive and see just how creepy this whole situation is (we half expected to find the corpse of her dead husband or something).

The ending was pretty anticlimactic because when we opened it up all we found was a dusty half-bath that had obviously been sealed up for a few months if not years. The lady was very dissappointed that "the devil" had escaped. She was eventually taken in for a psych eval.

The two of us that responded to the call initially got grief from other officers for WEEKS!

 

[DRMMR02]

Bulletforge.com makes real silver bullets. Everything from .45 LC to .308 and 45-70.

Those appear to be just jewelry though. I wonder, can you use the projectile in a live cartridge? Would silver work properly with the rifling of the barrel?

 

[tenbase]

"Back in 1835, when Halley’s comet was overhead, the same night those men died at the Alamo, they say Samuel Colt made a gun. A special gun. He made it for a hunter - a man like us, only on horseback. The story goes, he made 13 bullets. This hunter used the gun a half dozen times before he disappeared, the gun along with him. Somehow, Daniel got his hands on it. They say.... They say this gun can kill anything."



...I gotta stop watching so much TV..

 

[gregthehand]

Um guys winchester makes silver hollow points....

 

[Carl N. Brown]

Those silvertips are just aluminum.
You shoot a werewolf and it just laughs at you.

 

[No_Brakes23]

What gun for ghost?

I would think it would be obvious...

 

[Doug.38PR]

I'm reminded of a scene in the movie Canterville Ghost (from the 1940s) in which American G.I.s are staying in the Canterville house in England and the ghost appears. One of them picks up his Thompson and lets go on the ghost only to spray the wall behind him. Haven't seen that movie in over 20 years, but I remember that scene.

 

[Thefabulousfink]

Tenbase, I love that show but that episode pissed me off.

The "COLT" as they call it is a Paterson (sp?) which was a ball and cap revolver, in the show it uses cartridges. The Paterson also was a 5-shot revolver, but in the show it's 6. Despite all that, I would like a Paterson with all that nifty engraving on it.

 

[DRMMR02]

You need the right tools for the job.



This is all I need

 

[tenbase]

The "COLT" as they call it is a Paterson (sp?) which was a ball and cap revolver, in the show it uses cartridges. The Paterson also was a 5-shot revolver, but in the show it's 6. Despite all that, I would like a Paterson with all that nifty engraving on it.

I thought it was a Walker (six shooter), but they don't really show it long enough to get a good look. But yeah, its definitely cap n' ball. The show's full of ghosts and vampires anyway, what's one more little inaccuracy

 

[Doug.38PR]

Amen, DRMMR02

This is humorously starting to stray a little off topic as being about what kind of gun to use on a ghost. That wasn't my orginal post. The original post was more about stories and incidents where ghost have been encountered, shot at and how alert to strange noises you are if you live in a supposedly haunted house that has frequently has a lot of creaks and footsteps

 

[Manedwolf]

Here's the CBS story about the Guard troops spooked at the school in New Orleans.

I'd also heard that the Air Force has a C-130 that's supposedly haunted by its loadmaster who was killed in Vietnam. Cargo lights will be on when the aircraft has no battery or power on, the autopilot will change its course precisely when someone isn't paying attention, and people have seen and shouted at the guy...who doesn't exist, seen around its ramp at night.

Guardsmen Sense Ghostly Presence In New Orleans
Jazz News (CBS5)

The presence of the supernatural and the influence of voodoo long have been synonymous with New Orleans.

In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, members of the U.S. military are saying that there's something spooky going on and it's not just images of death and destruction that's haunting them.

By all accounts, the Sophie B. Wright Middle School in New Orleans sits empty and evacuated except for military personnel who have taken over the campus as a staging site for missions around the battered city.

But the men in uniform have the feeling that they're not alone. It prompted a chaplain to utter this directive: "In the name of Jesus Christ, I command you Satan to leave the dark areas of this building."

Said Sgt. Robin Hairston of the California National Guard: "I was in my sleeping bag and I opened by eyes and in the doorway was a little girl," . "It wasn't my imagination."

Hairston wasn't the only one seeing things. Spc. Rosales Leanor had her own close encounter.

"I was using the restroom and I just saw a little shadow," Leanor said, "kind of looming in front of me."

Another member of the Guard unit said that she saw and heard a little girl laughing when she opened a closet that contained cleaning supplies.

At a Baton Rouge marina, boats were strewn like trash, but not a shred of paper could be found. Except for the pages of a Bible, which was found by a soldier. It was open to the Book of Revelations.

At a nearby church, nearly destroyed, another Bible was found, showing the exact same passage from Revelations.

Like the power of nature, there is a power at work in New Orleans that defies explanation.

 

[TallPine]

How do you know the ghost means any harm...?

Maybe it is just a family spirit (the Scots have them, you know ) that is sharing your abode and watching over you all.

Perhaps, instead of shooting at spooks, you should leave milk and cookies out for them??? Maybe try to talk to them and understand their point of view

 

[Strings]

I used to work security at a furniture fctory that had some... oddities about it. You'ld hear glass breaking, but couldn't find any broken wondows, see twin red glowing points of light in the shadows (with nothing there to account for 'em), hear voices occassionally (the site supervisor got into an arguement with one one night, until he realized there really wasn't anyone else there), the freight elevator would randomly move between floors... things like that. I started carrying a pistol (the super asked "why... they're just ghosts?". I responded "If they can hurt me, I can hurt them... or at least have a last act of defiance")...

 

[vynx]

OK what to do about "ghost noises" and how to tell them from "Real" intruders.

I read somewhere (probably here) about some alrms that are like smoke alarms but spray out pepper spray when they sense motion or maybe infrared, something - so if you live in a hanted house get these if there is pepper spray all ove then it was something "material" and not a ghost.

I do have a "twilight zone" maybe a "ghost" story but it occrred at Carlesbad Caverns the big cave in NM and was more "religious" not frightening.

 

[sm]

To assist in keeping thread "firearm related" ...

Winchester Mystery House.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Mystery_House

The Winchester Mystery House is a famous California mansion that was under construction continuously for 38 years and is reputed to be haunted. Construction of the San Jose, California mansion began in 1884, financed by owner Sarah L. Winchester, the widow of gun magnate William Wirt Winchester. Construction continued 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year, until her death 38 years later on September 5, 1922. The cost for such constant building has been estimated at about US $5.5 million.