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I am not a knife maker.
My experiences include apprenticeship, where I had to learn to do things by hand, before I could use any power tool.
This was way before Dremel, and to this day I have never owned one, or used one.
Foredom Flex shafts, with a slipper shaped rheostat and carbon plates ( now solid state, and not as good) and electric motors we did have.
I could not use those, until I learned to do by hand.
I used hand tools, carbon steel, tool steels and these had to be sharpened by hand.
There was no way to have a jig , or any other doo-dad to sharpen these.
We also made a lot of our tools, as sometimes one has to make a tool for task.
So in essence, I did make knives.
Apprentice, and learn to do by hand.
Others did the heat treat and the like, my role was to design what was needed in a knife, do the work by hand, it was heat treated, and I finished it out.
Now back in the day, folks used a treadle to sharpen axes and knives.
Well they had smaller versions of these as well.
I will try to explain.
Most folks know what a bench grinder is.
Well watchmakers, use a buffing machine, electric motor, to polish watch cases and the like.
The Standard was a two speed motor with 3450 / 1725 RPM
Most folks use too much RPM.
Motors were geared down to 1725/862, 862/ 431, and even 431/ 215 RPM
Back in the day, pocket watch and wristwatch crystals were made of glass.
A watchmaker would buy blanks, and cut these blanks to fit the pocket watch and wristwatch.
You don't flip a motor on at 3450 RPM and put glass to a stone...
These stones were various grits, most were the color of Norton India, and ceramic as found in the old gas heaters of the day.
The round wheel went slow, and it depended on the glass, as to how "slow a fast" needed to be to do the fine fitting of glass to the bezel this glass fit into.
There was a sponge under this stone to keep it moist.
Basically an electric treadle wheel.
Watchmakers were not the only ones, just most folks might relate to these craftsman.
Those that fitted glass for other things, used the same methods and skills sets.
No power.
Well many craftsman learned by apprenticeship, as that is how it was done back in the day for many trades, and crafts.
I am going way back and over to the Swiss.
One group made cases, the other movements, and when the weather cleared, the pocket watch
was completed.
Remember that electric motor I shared earlier?
Well they too did everything by hand, and had little treadles with smaller wheels they used like "buffing machines.
Foot powered, or even hand cranked, and besides the stones, they used various "buffs" from cotton muslin, chamois leather and the like.
Back in the USA.
Well many watchmakers and others worked out of the house.
Electricity might go out, and many were such craftsman, paying attention to detail, they did not always want to use electric power.
They had these little treadles as well.
Mentors had me make some of my own buffs that worked on these little treadles I powered by foot.
So make knifes, by hand, without these treadles.
Everything by hand, including a mirror polish finish.
Or if they wanted a lined satin finish, or a hand checkered finish, or...
Yes, I/we took carbon steel, tool steels , heat treated and actually cut other metals.
Just like engravers use carbon steel gravers to engrave guns.
See, one graduated from sweeping floors to using a file.
I found out real fast, how not using a handle as Mentors did, allowed one to be in touch with the work.
To this day 99% of the time I use a file without a handle.
I did my knives, they were heat treated, then I did the handles and finished them out by hand, including sharpening.
Then I got to use the treadles.
Folks speak of belt sanders.
Well I "could" use the foot powered belt sander I help make, but my "knack" was using hand tools and the treadle with the stone, kept wet, like one cut and fitted a watch crystal - I did edges, and swedged and shapes.
Right off the bat, I found a stone that was "me".
I never used it wet.
We free hand sharpened tools, and 99% of the time used a dry stone.
I looked at the Mentors, and stated my case, this little treadle did not need Lubricated, at all, not even with water, when doing metal.
They looked at me, and then each other and "by golly, you are correct!"
It was no different using this foot powered treadle than free hand sharpening.
On glass, I even used it dry, which really went against the norm.
Water assisted in polishing the glass.
I just had "knacks" including being a rebel and not always doing the norm.
Funny thing was, I was the apprentice, and I could use a dry treadle stone, where some mentors could not, when I messed with glass for a picture frame, or whatever else challenge come up.
Sorta neat to have mentors that really believe one never stops being the student.
Wheels , from ceramic, India stone like, some so fine and smooth they felt like glass, and would leave a polished edge on glass, or steel or whatever else.
to muslin , various leather, chamois leather, cardboard and other buffs buffs.
I had to make some of these by hand to "appreciate and respect".
These were from 1/2" diameter to 5" diameter.
Running joke, as I prefer odd numbers and would not do a 6" one.
Just change out the leather belt pulley as needed for the wheel and how "slow" it needed to be.
Actually control, as one gets a rhythm going.
Still with me braced, wearing a head loop magnifier, I was "nose to the grindstone" putting on edges and all.
I was real happy to get the holes in the handles drilled, using a hand drill.
Trust me, you can tell if one haa taken out the temper or not, real fast!
I had to make using brass or nickel my own handle rivets, or screws.
So tap and die to make threads for when I chose to use screws.
Handles were fitted to hand, so the deal was, when the tool finally wore down, remove the steel, insert a new steel and therefore screw allowed for this change out, with a handle that fit me, or whomever the handle was fitted to.
This was my "free time" if you will.
Darn tools had better pass inspection and work, because doing more lessons meant I had to have these tools actually perform and work.
Treadles were neat, and so were the electric when I finally got to where I could use powered tools.
Still at 431/215 RPM, I still had the knack.
Funny thing is, mentors and I still did a lot by hand, by choice, instead of powered.
Time was money, and there is a balance in doing it correctly and not losing time by going to fast making mistakes by power.
Power tools, especially those going too fast, will ruin something in a heartbeat.
This has been ~ 40 years ago when I started apprentice.
I made my first wood handled, tool steel knife, akin to a whittling knife with a 1" blade at age 13.
I have not done so much of what I used to in years.
Still I remember, and some would come back once hands on, apprentice does that, it tends to instill things.
I respect those with talents and gifts, and I know many that do use power tools, learned to do by hand.
Hey, I still have not sharpened that SAK Classic I am using for EDC.
It'll be there when and if the mood strikes me.
I feel like I sorta earned the right to carry a dull knife.
Mentors did, made me sharpen theirs or on purpose did not sharpen.
Earned right to do so, which I better understand now I am older, like other things I understand since getting older.
Re: Axes.
One mentor used to make itty bitty hand axes.
The smallest with a 1" edge, medium 2" and large 3" cutting edge.
I'd hunker down and put edges and sharpen using little treadles.
We did most by hand.
Neatest little axes.
We'd get caught up and bored and use these cut the thorns off the roses the gals had in a flower vase.
Still handy little axes, we did all sorts of stuff with them.
One gets odd looks sharpening a pencil, or cutting celery, or carrots.
Still these would chop wood, some cabinet makers used to use these, as did some carvers and whittlers.
Everything always comes back to correct basic fundamentals.
My experiences include apprenticeship, where I had to learn to do things by hand, before I could use any power tool.
This was way before Dremel, and to this day I have never owned one, or used one.
Foredom Flex shafts, with a slipper shaped rheostat and carbon plates ( now solid state, and not as good) and electric motors we did have.
I could not use those, until I learned to do by hand.
I used hand tools, carbon steel, tool steels and these had to be sharpened by hand.
There was no way to have a jig , or any other doo-dad to sharpen these.
We also made a lot of our tools, as sometimes one has to make a tool for task.
So in essence, I did make knives.
Apprentice, and learn to do by hand.
Others did the heat treat and the like, my role was to design what was needed in a knife, do the work by hand, it was heat treated, and I finished it out.
Now back in the day, folks used a treadle to sharpen axes and knives.
Well they had smaller versions of these as well.
I will try to explain.
Most folks know what a bench grinder is.
Well watchmakers, use a buffing machine, electric motor, to polish watch cases and the like.
The Standard was a two speed motor with 3450 / 1725 RPM
Most folks use too much RPM.
Motors were geared down to 1725/862, 862/ 431, and even 431/ 215 RPM
Back in the day, pocket watch and wristwatch crystals were made of glass.
A watchmaker would buy blanks, and cut these blanks to fit the pocket watch and wristwatch.
You don't flip a motor on at 3450 RPM and put glass to a stone...
These stones were various grits, most were the color of Norton India, and ceramic as found in the old gas heaters of the day.
The round wheel went slow, and it depended on the glass, as to how "slow a fast" needed to be to do the fine fitting of glass to the bezel this glass fit into.
There was a sponge under this stone to keep it moist.
Basically an electric treadle wheel.
Watchmakers were not the only ones, just most folks might relate to these craftsman.
Those that fitted glass for other things, used the same methods and skills sets.
No power.
Well many craftsman learned by apprenticeship, as that is how it was done back in the day for many trades, and crafts.
I am going way back and over to the Swiss.
One group made cases, the other movements, and when the weather cleared, the pocket watch
was completed.
Remember that electric motor I shared earlier?
Well they too did everything by hand, and had little treadles with smaller wheels they used like "buffing machines.
Foot powered, or even hand cranked, and besides the stones, they used various "buffs" from cotton muslin, chamois leather and the like.
Back in the USA.
Well many watchmakers and others worked out of the house.
Electricity might go out, and many were such craftsman, paying attention to detail, they did not always want to use electric power.
They had these little treadles as well.
Mentors had me make some of my own buffs that worked on these little treadles I powered by foot.
So make knifes, by hand, without these treadles.
Everything by hand, including a mirror polish finish.
Or if they wanted a lined satin finish, or a hand checkered finish, or...
Yes, I/we took carbon steel, tool steels , heat treated and actually cut other metals.
Just like engravers use carbon steel gravers to engrave guns.
See, one graduated from sweeping floors to using a file.
I found out real fast, how not using a handle as Mentors did, allowed one to be in touch with the work.
To this day 99% of the time I use a file without a handle.
I did my knives, they were heat treated, then I did the handles and finished them out by hand, including sharpening.
Then I got to use the treadles.
Folks speak of belt sanders.
Well I "could" use the foot powered belt sander I help make, but my "knack" was using hand tools and the treadle with the stone, kept wet, like one cut and fitted a watch crystal - I did edges, and swedged and shapes.
Right off the bat, I found a stone that was "me".
I never used it wet.
We free hand sharpened tools, and 99% of the time used a dry stone.
I looked at the Mentors, and stated my case, this little treadle did not need Lubricated, at all, not even with water, when doing metal.
They looked at me, and then each other and "by golly, you are correct!"
It was no different using this foot powered treadle than free hand sharpening.
On glass, I even used it dry, which really went against the norm.
Water assisted in polishing the glass.
I just had "knacks" including being a rebel and not always doing the norm.
Funny thing was, I was the apprentice, and I could use a dry treadle stone, where some mentors could not, when I messed with glass for a picture frame, or whatever else challenge come up.
Sorta neat to have mentors that really believe one never stops being the student.
Wheels , from ceramic, India stone like, some so fine and smooth they felt like glass, and would leave a polished edge on glass, or steel or whatever else.
to muslin , various leather, chamois leather, cardboard and other buffs buffs.
I had to make some of these by hand to "appreciate and respect".
These were from 1/2" diameter to 5" diameter.
Running joke, as I prefer odd numbers and would not do a 6" one.
Just change out the leather belt pulley as needed for the wheel and how "slow" it needed to be.
Actually control, as one gets a rhythm going.
Still with me braced, wearing a head loop magnifier, I was "nose to the grindstone" putting on edges and all.
I was real happy to get the holes in the handles drilled, using a hand drill.
Trust me, you can tell if one haa taken out the temper or not, real fast!
I had to make using brass or nickel my own handle rivets, or screws.
So tap and die to make threads for when I chose to use screws.
Handles were fitted to hand, so the deal was, when the tool finally wore down, remove the steel, insert a new steel and therefore screw allowed for this change out, with a handle that fit me, or whomever the handle was fitted to.
This was my "free time" if you will.
Darn tools had better pass inspection and work, because doing more lessons meant I had to have these tools actually perform and work.
Treadles were neat, and so were the electric when I finally got to where I could use powered tools.
Still at 431/215 RPM, I still had the knack.
Funny thing is, mentors and I still did a lot by hand, by choice, instead of powered.
Time was money, and there is a balance in doing it correctly and not losing time by going to fast making mistakes by power.
Power tools, especially those going too fast, will ruin something in a heartbeat.
This has been ~ 40 years ago when I started apprentice.
I made my first wood handled, tool steel knife, akin to a whittling knife with a 1" blade at age 13.
I have not done so much of what I used to in years.
Still I remember, and some would come back once hands on, apprentice does that, it tends to instill things.
I respect those with talents and gifts, and I know many that do use power tools, learned to do by hand.
Hey, I still have not sharpened that SAK Classic I am using for EDC.
It'll be there when and if the mood strikes me.
I feel like I sorta earned the right to carry a dull knife.
Mentors did, made me sharpen theirs or on purpose did not sharpen.
Earned right to do so, which I better understand now I am older, like other things I understand since getting older.
Re: Axes.
One mentor used to make itty bitty hand axes.
The smallest with a 1" edge, medium 2" and large 3" cutting edge.
I'd hunker down and put edges and sharpen using little treadles.
We did most by hand.
Neatest little axes.
We'd get caught up and bored and use these cut the thorns off the roses the gals had in a flower vase.
Still handy little axes, we did all sorts of stuff with them.
One gets odd looks sharpening a pencil, or cutting celery, or carrots.
Still these would chop wood, some cabinet makers used to use these, as did some carvers and whittlers.
Everything always comes back to correct basic fundamentals.