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Good analysis why federal judge put an end to CA's magazine ban - https://reason.com/blog/2019/04/01/here-is-why-a-federal-judge-nixed-califo

"'California's law prohibiting acquisition and possession of magazines able to hold any more than 10 rounds places a severe restriction on the core right of self-defense of the home such that it amounts to a destruction of the right and is unconstitutional under any level of scrutiny.'

... In 2008, Supreme Court held that the Second Amendment applies to arms in common use for lawful purposes. Benitez notes that highly popular firearms owned by millions of Americans, such as the Glock 17 pistol, the Ruger 10/22 rifle, and the AR-15 rifle, come equipped with magazines that exceed California's arbitrary limit ... 'Millions of ammunition magazines able to hold more than 10 rounds are in common use by law-abiding responsible citizens for lawful uses like self-defense ... This is enough to decide that a magazine able to hold more than 10 rounds passes the Heller test and is protected by the Second Amendment.'"

"he also concludes that California's ban on 'large capacity magazines' (LCMs) fails 'strict scrutiny,' which requires the government to prove that the law is narrowly tailored to achieve a compelling state interest, and even 'intermediate scrutiny,' which requires that the law be substantially related to an important state interest. The LCM ban 'burdens the core of the Second Amendment by criminalizing the acquisition and possession of these magazines that are commonly held by law-abiding citizens for defense of self, home ... It also fails the strict scrutiny test because the statute is not narrowly tailored—it is not tailored at all. Even under the more forgiving test of intermediate scrutiny, the statute fails because it is not a reasonable fit.'"

"Benitez emphasizes that the avowed aim of the LCM ban—reducing the lethality of mass shootings—is related to a small subset of 'extremely rare' crimes: cases where the need to switch magazines creates a 'critical pause' during which the perpetrator might be overpowered or his victims might escape. Defensive uses of guns are far more common, and at the beginning of his ruling Benitez describes several cases in which having more than 10 rounds could have made a critical difference. 'From the perspective of a victim trying to defend her home and family, the time required to re-load a pistol after the tenth shot might be called a 'lethal pause,' as it typically takes a victim much longer to re-load (if they can do it at all) than a perpetrator planning an attack. In other words, the re-loading 'pause' the State seeks in hopes of stopping a mass shooter also tends to create an even more dangerous time for every victim who must try to defend herself with a small-capacity magazine.

'When thousands of people are rioting, as happened in Los Angeles in 1992, or more recently with Antifa members in Berkeley in 2017, a 10-round limit for self-defense is a severe burden. When a group of armed burglars break into a citizen's home at night, and the homeowner in pajamas must choose between using their left hand to grab either a telephone, a flashlight, or an extra 10-round magazine, the burden is severe. When one is far from help in a sparsely populated part of the state, and law enforcement may not be able to respond in a timely manner, the burden of a 10-round limit is severe. When a major earthquake causes power outages, gas and water line ruptures, collapsed bridges and buildings, and chaos, the burden of a 10-round magazine limit is severe. When food distribution channels are disrupted and sustenance becomes scarce while criminals run rampant, the burden of a 10-round magazine limit is severe. Surely, the rights protected by the Second Amendment are not to be trimmed away as unnecessary because today's litigation happens during the best of times. It may be the best of times in Sunnyvale; it may be the worst of times in Bombay Beach or Potrero. California's ban covers the entire state at all times.'

Proposition 63, which required heretofore legal owners of pre-2000 LCMs to surrender them, remove them from the state, or sell them to licensed gun dealers, passed in 2016 with support from 63 percent of voters. But constitutional rights are not subject to majority approval. 'Constitutional rights stand through time holding fast through the ebb and flow of current controversy. Bad political ideas cannot be stopped by criminalizing bad political speech. Crime waves cannot be broken with warrantless searches and unreasonable seizures. Neither can the government response to a few mad men with guns and ammunition be a law that turns millions of responsible, law-abiding people trying to protect themselves into criminals. Yet this is the effect of California's large-capacity magazine law.'"
 
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People need to remember the first few who started shipping. I don't think the big guys would have started if not for all the other smaller ones. I could be mistaken though
 
People need to remember the first few who started shipping. I don't think the big guys would have started if not for all the other smaller ones. I could be mistaken though
Don't worry. The brave vendors who supported CA gun owners right from Friday's ruling and judgement have been well documented on multitude of forum threads (and saved forever on internet servers/cloud) and many like me will remember for the rest of our lives and tell our children/grandchildren who supported our 2A cause.
 
Attorney Chuck Michel of CRPA/NRA twitted "Lots of sources sold out for magazines thanks to CRPA's lawsuit." - https://twitter.com/CRPAPresident/status/1113809361007038466

Companies Crushed With Heavy Demand For Gun Magazines From California - https://www.ammoland.com/2019/04/co...&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=socialnetwork

"California residents are in a rush to buy up magazines before the state can appeal U.S. District Judge Roger Benitez's decision to the Ninth Circuit Court. The judge's decision stunned the California Attorney General and the gun community as well. It went further than either side anticipated.

... Some gun owners were worried that the price of magazines would increase with the potential run on the product. Primarily this increase in price hasn't happened. In fact, a lot of websites are running deals for California residents. Companies are there to make a profit, but it seems like a lot of companies are taking this opportunity to spread the message of liberty."
 
I was really impressed when Magpul put up on their Facebook page that they were selling direct to any CA address...in order to beat pending injunctive relief ... offer free shipping on orders over $75
Their website now shows "California magazine restrictions have been lifted and we can now ship all PMAGs to California customers" - https://www.magpul.com/

This will be interesting to watch.

If the State appeals the ruling to the full 9th Circuit and they win, it will be appealed to the SCOTUS. If the SCOTUS rules that the law is unconstitutional, it would affect all states that currently have a magazine capacity limitation
Yes, definitely will be interesting but for Californians like you and I, magazine capacity limitation has effectively ended regardless how 9th Circuit rules.

Happy days for sure.

With this ruling and judgement, since judge Benitez called magazines "arms", shouldn't his ruling affect CA state ban/restriction on ammunition, which is also "arms", as he ruled ban/restriction on "arms" unconstitutional?

And I am hopeful that his ruling will also extend to CA Roster of Handguns as California's AG/DOJ imposed a process that ban/restrict "arms" available to CA residents that are in "common use" the rest of the country.
 
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Attorney Chuck Michel posted just now - https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=796705930709030&id=100011088912909

"Latest on Duncan case: State demands that district court rule on its stay request by close of business today.

Defendant requests that the Court issue a stay of the Judgment pending appeal no later than 5:00 p.m., Thursday, April 4. If a stay is not in place by that time, Defendant, due to the urgency of this matter, will seek an emergency stay pending appeal before the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals."

In the comments, Chuck Michel clarifies:

"Piper Smith Chuck Michel: What does 'seek(ing) an emergency stay pending appeal before the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.' mean in terms of anticipated time frame?

Chuck Michel: If they don't get the stay they want from the district court today they will ask the court of appeals tomorrow."

Filed court documents - http://michellawyers.com/duncan-v-b...JCOs6741vhDNRvqtBiLfI1DnbkwsRztjLNgiAyq-2qHGY


I could see "arms"/magazine orders for CA skyrocketing immediately once word of this filing spreads and many more convoys for out-of-state purchases.

Brownell's website still showing 10 and 100 pack magazine specials in stock :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: - https://www.brownells.com/magazines...=Avantlink&utm_content=NA&utm_campaign=Itwine
 
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Does this ruling only apply to Cali ?
At this time: Pretty Much...certainly nothing outside the 9th Circut

The irony...and the reason it caught everyone off guard...was that the issue originally being litigated was the surrender of mags with a greater than 10 round capacity; that was the issue addressed in the original injunction.

No one had a hint that the judge would rule on the underlying issue of importation of larger than 10-round mags into the state
 
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, just a layman.
Yes for now, but can affect rest of 9th Circuit states and territories which are Alaska, Arizona, California, Guam, Hawaii, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Northern Mariana Islands (Saipan, Tinian and Rota), Oregon, Washington - https://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/content/view.php?pk_id=0000000135

You might not be a lawyer but you write some very good analyses. Keep up the good work! :thumbup:
 
Defendant requests that the Court issue a stay of the Judgment pending appeal no later than 5:00 p.m., Thursday, April 4. If a stay is not in place by that time, Defendant, due to the urgency of this matter, will seek an emergency stay pending appeal before the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals."

The defendant (the state of CA) originally requested no later than the 5th.... and now is demanding by end of day today the 4th.

May be a reaction to realizing how many mags are coming into CA.
 
The defendant (the state of CA) originally requested no later than the 5th.... and now is demanding by end of day today the 4th.

May be a reaction to realizing how many mags are coming into CA.
You bet. I read in one of many forum threads that within hours, Brownell's sold over 350,000 "arms"/magazines alone. Imagine how many magazines they have sold since. My guess is over tens of millions of "arms"/magazines have sold and already shipped/brought into CA and many more on the way.

As attorney Chuck Michel hinted, I hope some of the tens of millions of dollars being made by the vendors end up going to CRPA/NRA to continue the battle on "arms"/ammunition ban/restriction and CA Roster of Handguns.

Yes, we are at war with the anti-gun crowd and CA is the flashpoint right now among many battlegrounds. Vendors nationwide shipping "arms"/magazines to CA while running sales/specials without price gouging in support is akin to the Berlin Airlift operation.
 
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BREAKING ON DUNCAN CASE: Partial Stay Issued, Judge Protects Those Who Acquired Since Friday - https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=796757584037198&id=100011088912909

"THEREFORE, IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that the Judgment is stayed in part pending final resolution of the appeal from the Judgment. The permanent injunction enjoining enforcement of California Penal Code § 32310 (a) and (b) is hereby stayed, effective 5:00 p.m., Friday, April 5, 2019. IT IS HEREBY FURTHER ORDERED that the preliminary injunction issued on June 29, 2017, enjoining enforcement of California Penal Code § 32310 (c) and (d) shall remain in effect.

IT IS HEREBY FURTHER ORDERED that the permanent injunction enjoining enforcement of California Penal Code § 32310 (a) and (b) shall remain in effect for those persons and business entities who have manufactured, imported, sold, or bought magazines able to hold more than 10 rounds between the entry of this Court’s injunction on March 29, 2019 and 5:00 p.m., Friday, April 5, 2019."

Watch for long line of convoys leaving CA to purchase higher capacity than 10 round "arms"/magazines this afternoon. Many are posting all the LGS have sold out of normal/standard capacity "arms"/magazines in CA.
 
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And just like that Judge Benitez became an instant hero, legend and ambassador to California’s legal gun owning citizens. And a target for all liberals and criminals. I wonder if he was waiting for a case like this to come before him. History will show him on the right side of freedom and his family should be proud. I hope good things are in his future.
 
And just like that Judge Benitez became an instant hero, legend and ambassador to California’s legal gun owning citizens.
The Cuban immigrant judge Roger T. Benitez just became my hero and I will be mounting his picture on my reloading room wall to give me a smile/celebration every time I look at his face for what he has done for our freedom and liberty - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_T._Benitez

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I cannot wait to hear from justice Gorsuch and Kavanaugh on what their opinions are on judge Benitez's opinions if/when the case is heard at the SCOTUS.

President Trump, keep nominating judges to federal courts/SCOTUS and we'll keep voting in pro-2A law makers and voting out anti-2A law makers! :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
 
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"permanent injunction enjoining enforcement of California Penal Code § 32310 (a) and (b) shall remain in effect for those persons and business entities who have manufactured, imported, sold, or bought magazines ... between the entry of this Court’s injunction on March 29, 2019 and 5:00 p.m., Friday, April 5, 2019."
Interestingly, judge Benitez used the word "bought" and not "delivered". (Stipulation of delivery is nowhere on the partial stay order)

When the order is placed online and paid, is the item "bought" when the electronic receipt is generated showing time and date of purchase?

Isn't definition of "purchase" when money changes hands? So when the vendors charge on your credit/debit card and sends you an order number, the "purchase" is made and you have "bought" your "arms"/magazines?
 
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"permanent injunction ... shall remain in effect for those persons and business entities who have manufactured, imported, sold, or bought magazines ... between the entry of this Court’s injunction on March 29, 2019 and 5:00 p.m., Friday, April 5, 2019."
This goes beyond those who already possessed to include those who newly acquired between 3/29/19 to 4/5/19 5:00 PM" :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
 
Interestingly, judge Benitez used the word "bought" and not "delivered". (Stipulation of delivery is nowhere on the partial stay order)

When the order is placed online and paid, is the item "bought" when the electronic receipt is generated showing time and date of purchase?

Isn't definition of "purchase" when money changes hands? So when the vendors charge on your credit/debit card and sends you an order number, the "purchase" is made and you have "bought" your "arms"/magazines?
There must be heads exploding at the AG's office after reading that order.

1st that it doesn't take effect until 1700hrs tomorrow...so another 24hrs to order more. Also, since he did issue the Stay, the Defendant can't approach another judge to issue a different one
2nd because it does not include the word "received"...yes, when you pay for something, you have bought (purchased) it, you just don't have possession of it yet. It is like the 10-day waiting period for firearms
 
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