Happy Slapping???

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Will be travelling to the UK to do a post graduate diploma in London soon and am worried about being the victim of a "happy slapping". For those THRers who are not British or who are unaware of this :cuss: form of thuggish behaviour,......it when a bunch (usaully a few) of :cuss: deliquent youths target whom they believe to be weaker than themselves (usually alone) and assualt them in a hit and run fashion. Usually, it involves hard slapping, kicking, punching.....mostly unarmed attacks i think. The sh*&^% thing is that one of them usually record down the act on a camera enabled mobile phone so that they can distribute the :cuss: pics on the internet.

Assuming that OC spray and guns are totally NOT an option, what should I do to make myself an unappealing target and protect myself if all else fails? I plan to carry a kubotan or comtech stinger together with a sturdy umbrella during my stay in the British Isles.
 
Carry a cane or umbrella (they are still legal there?), and if you get happy slapped, give 'em a little 'you-all-what-for' upside the head.
 
Heres somthing you can make that you can take most places that dont allow "weapons" whatever those are.


I made a "walking stick" out of a red oak dowel i got at the home depot. Buy one of those and a brass cabnet knob. screw the knob to one end, carve or wood burn a design on the stick if you want and your set.

The brass knob acts to ballance the stick making your "walking stick" a great "whopping stick".

Mine stays in the trunk and goes on walks with me, it's my pre gun, pre martial arts option.
 
Buy new running shoes. Reebok is British, right? There you go, problem solved.

If that fails or is too dangerous to try;

If spare change is still legal, then pick up a roll of change or two. Probably just get one, but two would work better maybe if you have two strong wrists for punching. Pennies, nickles, and if you have giant hands quarters, you get the idea. Put a bit of tape on the ends so they don't open up.

Aim a punch somewhere between a right cross and an upper-cut, so it's coming up and in at about a 45 degree angle, and aim it at the lower-left edge of the guy's jaw, in the middle. Put on punching bag gloves and try on a bag first, just straight punches and crosses (can't really do upper-cuts obvisouly), to make sure the wrist will hold.

Your feet should be 1.5 - 2 shoulder widths apart, feet facing forward (point maybe 10 degrees out), and if you put a yard stick against your toes it should point across the other guy at a 45 degree angle.

Point your left shoulder at them, so your waist is twisted up like a spring. Have your right hand beside your rib-cage, the top side facing downwards. (keep the left arm out, don't forget)

Bend your right leg, then push up with that leg as you spin with the shoulders&waist and swing/push with your fist.

1 down.

Oh yea, it's like golf and baseball, keep your eye on the ball - chin, or else it might move and you miss.

If you have 2 rolls coins then maybe as you finish the right punch and find you're already set up for a leftypunch, as a bonus.

PS it could seriously injure people, so you have to be in a situation where you justify seriously injure people. Plus Brits fight alot so they're harder to knock out, because of the scarring of brain tissue makes it tougher when it bounces off the skull walls. Hence the nickles, or 'pence'.
 
Some people you just dont mess with.

Like my self. If a group of people came up to "happy slap" me, no joke, I would start fighting to kill. Gun, knife, stick, pipe, rock, whatever. If i have access to it, I'm picking it up. :uhoh:
 
Take a fetal position and cry 'Don't hurt me! Don't hurt me!' or Try scratching open your forehead and scream loudly 'I have AIDS!' If that doesn't work then promptly wet your pants and try to get the urine on the attacker. Or talk to them in a soft voice and appeal to their humanity. :neener:

How in the hell did Britain go from their finest hour in WW2 to today?
 
Assuming that OC spray and guns are totally NOT an option, what should I do to make myself an unappealing target and protect myself if all else fails?
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Grow six inches, put on 40 pounds of muscle, and wear an eyepatch. Say "ARRGGGH" a lot.

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Farnham
 
Best thing you can do is make sure you are never in Condition White. It is unlikely that you would be "happy-slapped" while in Condition Yellow as the yobs usually want to take someone by surprise as that allows them to overwhelm the victim before they can bring any potential defenses to bear, whether those are fists or some type of dedicated or improvised weapon.

If you insist on carrying anything that can be used to defend yourself be prepared to get charged with carrying an "offensive weapon" should you ever actually have to use it. It's entirely likely that you'd face the possibility of more severe punishment for such an "offense" than the yobs assaulting you. As far as items that might be useful, and least likely to get you in trouble: pocket size Surefire flashlight (light can blind/disorient the attackers at night and if metal cased can be used to hit with), stout pen carried in a breast pocket (stabbing), and a walking stick/cane (striking).

Frankly I think you're probably best off using your brain to keep you out of trouble more so than anything else (and that really applies regardless of what country you're in and what their laws are WRT defensive weapons). Don't do things like walking alone after dark in the city, get overly absorbed in your i-Pod/cell phone/newspaper/etc, or look scared/confused/lost even you are. Keep your head up, shoulders back, and generally look like you're in control. Know, or determine where the escape routes are at all times, and if you think you're being set up for a "happy-slapping" or any other crime, make use of that escape route (best way to win a fight is to not get in one in the first place).
 
DO NOT CARRY A WALKING STICK, you will get arrested. happy slapping is not as common as the news people want to make out. I carry a kubbaton on my key ring and or a small torch. same rules apply here as every were use your brain, not whats in your hand.

In this country anything thats is carried as a weapoin is illegal. if you want any info drop me a line.
 
but most things, such as a stick, are not weapons until used as one.

So if you are a martial artist over there they chop off your hands and feet?

After all they are being carried as weapons.

Makes no sense.
 
I hear that the ovens are very dirty in England, and there are a lot of wasps' nests. I'd take proper aerosol precautions.
 
Anyone see the front page of cnn.com today when the Bobbies were carrying mp-5s?? Finally...

I'd hit back...

-Colin
 
Sorry, wouldn't go. I would love to visit England, Scotland, Ireland, all those wonderful places, but I won't, as long as their citizens are reduced to helpless subjects....
Same reason I stay out of New Jersey and Chicago, BTW...
 
if you carrie an oven cleener at night you are classed as "going armed" = you get bacon and eggs at her majestys expence, crime is not that bad in most parts of the uk, but like all countrys there are bits that its best not to go. the police have been carring MP 5s and glocks for years over here, you just got to know where to look for them
 
You could learn some self defense ;)

Other than that, if it happens, just try and do some damage to one of em, the other will prolly run off.

Either that or get revenge. (They will, not you) (For hurting their buddys)
 
I wouldn't worry.

When you get here find out which areas are considered dangerous and then investigate them carefully. Like the media do, people tend to go overboard about how dangerous life is.

In my short years I have never been the victim of a assault. I don't live in a hippy commune, I just decide where I consider safe and where I don't and I stick to those rules. Not really that hard. When living in Durham I avoided North Road on a Friday night at kicking out time. Other students did get attacked - usually after they themselves had been drinking and often after indulging in some 'student humour' mocking of the local accent/dress code.

I've only heard of happy slapping from the media. Don't personally know of anyone, directly or indirectly, that has been a victim of this media craze.
 
That's pretty striaght forward and sensible, and I try to follow it too. But freaking girls mess all those equations up.

For instance... "That bar looks dingy, I'm not sure about it, but the girls are going in..."

The unquantifiable variable, damnit.
 
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