Hard-to-find SxS

[TheToyMaker]

I'm looking for a fighting-type side-by-side (sounds contradictory to some, but the immediate followup and inherently smaller size are advantages IMHO). Unfortunately given my specs I haven't found much. Does anybody know of a side-by-side not made in China (saw Classic Arms referenced in another shotgun thread. NEVER HAPPENING) that has all of the following:

-Single trigger (ability to select doesn't matter one way or another)
-Short barrels (20" would be ideal, and I'd rather not go over 22")
-Ejectors
-External hammers are not a necessity, but might be a plus
-No English grip

Anybody know of any models like this?

 

[rbernie]

I can think of no perfect match.

The CZ hammer coach is an option, altho it has double triggers and extractors. I have several double-trigger SxSs and find it very instinctive to reach for the second trigger, even when coming off my 870s.

The Baikal has a single trigger and ejectors, but it's got internal hammers.

The Brazilian SxSs (Stoeger, et al.) have internal hammers and extractors only, as do most game-oriented SxS.

 

[Speedo66]

Buy a Stevens 311 or 5100 and cut to your size.

They have double triggers, but single triggers are sometimes problematic, and if it's for defence, you would be better off with the double triggers which always seem to work.

 

[TheToyMaker]

I admit I haven't actually fired a double trigger but when dryfiring it always felt awkward to me.

The two Baikal models separately are great; the 210 has single trigger and ejectors but its also got 26-inch pipes, and the 220 has 20-inch pipes but its got double triggers and extractors.

Guess I'll have to keep looking, or find someone who's selling short Baikal tubes separately.

 

[DaleCooper51]

Remember that the receiver on a double barrel is much shorter than a pump. A double with 26" barrels has about the same overall length as a 20" pump gun. The longer barrels might not be an issue.

 

[rbernie]

I admit I haven't actually fired a double trigger but when dryfiring it always felt awkward to me.

Borrow one and shoot some clays with it. I found the double trigger to be unnoticable and instinctive, and I vastly prefer that setup over an inertial single-trigger system that is more prone to malfunction.

 

[TheToyMaker]

I didn't realize the length difference was so huge. I'll have to handle one for final assessment but if 26" on a SxS is similar to an 18-20" tube on a pump then 26-inch pipes on the Baikal shouldn't be a problem at all.

Leaning heavily toward a SPR210 at this point.

EDIT:

Having reviewed the Remington SPR specs alongside 870 specs, there is a length savings of slightly over 4" for any given barrel length (given the length of shotshells and ejection ports, this is pretty unsurprising). The full ballistics of 26" tubes in a gun the size of a 20-22" pump makes for a package that's just fine with me.

 

[Gary A]

Wouldn't be too much of a project to have an SPR210 shortened to the legal length you prefer since cylinder bore would not be a problem in a defense gun.
I have a couple SPR220 coach guns which I like a lot. I have a 28" SPR220 which I like but find a bit too clunky, a bit too long, and a bit too muzzle heavy for my liking. It "feels" heavier than it is when carryiing it afield. I've thought about having it cut down to 24 or 25 inches. For the uses I have for it, the resulting cylinder bore is an issue but not a critical one.

 

[miekelle]

hmmmm theres a nice looking one i will send u the link to its a stoeger uplander coach gun......

http://www.stoegerindustries.com/firearms/images/alt_coachGun.jpg

and heres a combat mod

https://webspace.utexas.edu/cheewl/www/shotty.jpg

theres one problem it is double trigger

 

[miekelle]

theres this awesome short as combat o/u
http://www.stoegerindustries.com/firearms/images/condor_outback_large_nickel_black.jpg