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Hate speech of the left

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  1. FRIZ

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    The Boston Globe
    12/28/2003

    Hate speech of the left
    By Jeff Jacoby

    http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2003/12/28/hate_speech_of_the_left/

    IN DECEMBER 1994 I wrote the first of what would become a yearly series of columns on the subject of liberal hate speech. That was the year Republicans swept the midterm elections to win control of Congress, and ideological passions were running high. I had noticed that when a prominent Republican or conservative said something offensive about liberals, it typically set off a storm of media condemnation, while an anti-conservative smear voiced by a liberal or a Democrat rarely drew any protest. There was no end of sour commentary, for example, when Newt Gingrich recommended that Clinton Democrats be portrayed as "the enemy of normal Americans." It was an outrageous remark, and Gingrich deserved the drubbing he received.

    But when Jesse Jackson explicitly likened the proposals of the new majority to Nazism and apartheid -- "If this were Germany, we would call it fascism. If this were South Africa, we would call it racism" -- there wasn't even a ripple of disapproval. Julianne Malveaux, a radio host and USA Today columnist, caught no flak when she prayed aloud for the death of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. "I hope his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter and he dies early like many black men do, of heart disease," she snarled on PBS.

    What was true in 1994 remains largely true today. MSNBC fired right-wing talk host Michael Savage in July, and rightly so, when he told a gay caller to "get AIDS and die, you pig." The liberal Nina Totenberg, on the other hand, suffered no ill effects for saying, during the flap over General Jerry Boykin's views of Islam and the war on terrorism, "I hope he's not long for this world." When the startled host asked if she were "putting a hit out on this guy," Totenberg backtracked and said she only wanted to see him expire "in his job."

    But this isn't the first time the NPR diva has publicly wished death on a conservative. "I think he ought to be worried about what's going on in the Good Lord's mind," she said of Senator Jesse Helms in 1995, "because if there is retributive justice, he'll get AIDS from a transfusion, or one of his grandchildren will."

    Such venom should be beyond the pale. But too many liberals would still rather dismiss conservative ideas with an ugly slur than actually grapple with them on the merits. Debating the pros and cons of racial preferences or US foreign policy can be difficult; much easier to simply hiss "Racist!" or "Nazi!" or some equally poisonous insult.

    "What you have now" -- this is left-wing activist and actress Janeane Garofalo, analyzing the Republican Party during an appearance at the 92d Street Y in New York this year -- "is people that are closet racists, misogynists, homophobes, and people who love . . . the politics of exclusion identifying as conservative." That was apparently enough to win her a guest-host slot on CNN's "Crossfire," where she offered this thoughtful critique of the Patriot Act: "It is in fact a conspiracy of the 43d Reich."

    Ah, yes, the reductio ad Hitlerum. Why meet a conservative with facts or logic when you can simply tar him with the Nazi brush? Thus we had Nancy Giles on the "CBS Sunday Morning show" sourly tying Rush Limbaugh's "edgy" radio manner to you-know-who's. "Hitler would have killed in talk radio," Giles declared. "He was edgy, too." Ellen Gray of the Philadelphia Daily News struck a similar note in commenting on "The Reagans," the canceled miniseries. "If Hitler had more friends," she told The Washington Post, "CBS wouldn't have aired [its Hitler miniseries] either."

    Of course no one came in for more Hitler comparisons this year than George W. Bush. Third Reich references were practically a staple of antiwar rhetoric.

    The president "is not the orator that Hitler was," acknowledges leftist commentator Dave Lindorff at Counterpunch.org. "But comparisons of the Bush administration's fearmongering tactics to those practiced so successfully and with such terrible results by Hitler and Goebbels . . . are not at all out of line."

    Such repugnant comparisons are in fact wildly out of line. But so long as the double standard persists, liberals will continue to make them with impunity.

    Of course this complaint can be taken too far. Ed Gillespie, the Republican Party's chairman, has been accusing Democrats of engaging in "political hate speech" when they call Bush a "liar" or a "miserable failure." But there is a world of difference between labeling someone a failure and labeling him Hitler. My objection has never been to political elbow-throwing. What I have tried to argue is that certain kinds of insult -- those that fantasize about people's deaths, or slime them as racists or fascists or terrorists -- do such violence to our public discourse that they should simply be shunned.

    Ten years ago almost no one was calling attention to this liberal slander problem; now magazine articles and even books are being written about it. Progress of a sort, I guess. There's room for a lot more.


    Jeff Jacoby's e-mail address is jacoby@globe.com.
     
  2. Mike Irwin

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    But it's not hate speech if it comes from the Left.

    That's why Jesse Jackson can talk about Hymietown all he wants, but everyone knows it was just a slip and he meant to say New York.

    That's also why Robert Byrd, once a member of the KKK, can keep his job in the Senate without so much as a whimper, but a Republican (name escapes me at the moment) obliquely praises Strom Thurmond's 1948 Presidential bid and is widely condemned as a racist hate mongerer.

    There's no double standard in this country. None at all.
     
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    Trent Lott, and it cost him the position of Senate Majority Leader....
     
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    Remember who the Liberal target audience is.

    Liberals are constantly pitching to the low side of the IQ curve. That's where their audience is. Their targets cannot follow a logical discussion of any sort beyond why the beer should or should not be iced down.

    Liberal media people have no experience in debate because they always dismiss solid logic as "nazi," "racist," etc. Their target audience thinks it has heard reasoned debate and couldn't follow an informed conservative reply anyway.

    Now someone will point out that there are high IQ people out there spouting liberal ideas. That's right. They are either part of the "pitch to the low-siders" team or have never thought any political idea through for the simple reason that they have no interest. They just follow the noise and guess where most of the noise comes from. Conservatives appeal to the strengths of human character. Liberals pander to the weakness of human character. Therefore noise.

    Half the people are born on the low side of the IQ curve. Millions more migrate there after years of indoctrination by government schools followed by years of hum-drum, no-mental-challenge jobs.

    High IQ liberals are far enough up the curve to be beyond thinking and into schemeing. They realize that by forming the less well endowed folks into a bloc they can wield power and turn this county into a true haven for Nazism. Liberals always accuse conservatives of what Liberals are--Nazis. No they don't murder throngs of people--yet--but the mentality is there and revving its engines. Why else do they engage in death wishes in their hate speech?

    Bush and the world terror network has awakened a lot of people and derailed the Liberal's nearly flawless leading of this nation into a police state. Why else do you think Liberals are anti-gun? It'll take a while after the terror thing is put out of existence before the liberals can get the rails greased again. But they'll do it. Liberty always gives way to tyranny which is the natural form of gov't. I don't believe the slide into tyranny can be stopped from inside the sliding society. Outside force--who?--or revolution must be exercised in order to restore liberty, methinks.

    Enjoy the ride.

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  5. HankB

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    You mean like the people in Florida who couldn't figure out the butterfly ballots - unlike most of the children in 3rd and 4th grade test classrooms who had no difficulty with same? :rolleyes:
     
  6. w4rma

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  7. Mike Irwin

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    I was especially fond of the butterfly ballot issue, and the left's attempt to paint it as the right's attempt to deny the people the vote...

    Especially given that the area in which it was used is heavily Democrat, and the elections board was controlled by Democrats, who approved its use.
     
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    A confusing ballot created by Theresa LePore, a former Reflublican- then Independent- turned Democrat (to ensure she'd be elected to the Supervisor's position in a largely Democratic county), caused folks to either vote for the wrong person or punch two names (overvote). Even Bat Pukehanon admits that there is no way he should have received those 3,000 votes in a mainly Jewish Palm Beach county.
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    http://www.americaheldhostile.com/selection.shtml

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    LePore has since changed her voter registration from Democrat to independent.
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    http://www.townhall.com/columnists/johnmccaslin/jm20020130.shtml
     
  9. Sean Smith

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    :rolleyes:

    Incidentally, your picture shows a perfectly comprehensible ballot... for someone smarter than your typical igneous rock. Not that I expect someone raving about "Reflublican" conspiracy theories like in your post above to be able to poke holes in paper. :neener:
     
  10. Malone LaVeigh

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    You obviously haven't ever listened to Savage, Limbaugh, or any of the rest of the army of right-wing commentators on radio and TV.
     
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    All they needed to do was to trick a few hundred folks in one state to get it to the U.S. Supreme Court. Remember, Al Gore won the popular vote, nationwide, by over half a million votes.
     
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    Hey, that's what I was going to say! You literally have to be a moron not to understand that ballot. A picture is worth a thousand words, thanks for providing it w4rma. :D

    Didn't I read that a bunch of third graders passed the use of that ballot with flying colors??

    Anyway, the election is over. The best man may not have won, but Gore LOST.
     
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    Well, boys, the entire ballot design question is a nice diversion,

    but the real issue is the removal of thousands of (mostly minority, so mostly Democratic) voters from the rolls by misusing a database.

    All of the BS about chads, recounts, and such is fun, but meaningless.

    Gore lost because of a corrupt Florida government and a bought and paid for Supreme Court,

    and a gutless national Democratic organization,

    and Gore's unwillingness to risk civil war.

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  14. Sean Smith

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    Strong evidence that you... flunked civics class. HINT: popular votes have never decided presidential elections in the United States. But hey, why stop being disingenuous now? ;)

    I agree.. insofar as it is a "diversion" created by the Democrats from the fact that Gore lost.

    Oy vey. :rolleyes:
     
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    :D :D

    Bravo!

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    Hey, I think the real issue is sugarplum fairies! I think that theory has as much basis in real life as what you have described, anyway.

    Thinking something doesn't make it fact - unless, of course, you're a Konservative.

    Do you want a link or not?

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    Unless Florida is completely at odds with other areas of the country, one person does not create the ballot and that's it.

    I know for a fact that the Florida butterfly ballot was passed before the other members of the board of elections, who approved it.

    It also, I believe, passed before the county supervisors, who didn't say one word against it.

    And if I'm not mistaken, it was mailed to every registered voter in the county weeks BEFORE the election, and no one said a single word against it.

    Sorry, but that dog doesn't hunt, as the saying goes.
     
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    "Well, boys, the entire ballot design question is a nice diversion,

    but the real issue is the removal of thousands of (mostly minority, so mostly Democratic) voters from the rolls by misusing a database.

    All of the BS about chads, recounts, and such is fun, but meaningless.

    Gore lost because of a corrupt Florida government and a bought and paid for Supreme Court,

    and a gutless national Democratic organization,

    and Gore's unwillingness to risk civil war."



    And, again, given that Democrats were in charge of the voter roles, who takes the blame for losing the election?
     
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    Sure, go ahead. I'm sure it will be completely unbiased and not connected to the mewling hard-left lunatic fringe. :D

    Well, your spelling isn't so hot, but in any case I'm not a Republican. I just find your conspiracy theory extremely silly and not supported by any credible evidence this side of Democratic Underground.
     
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    No loss, not that his successor is any better. Remember, they were both Democrats that changed sides. Uh, they DID change sides when they changed parties, didn't they?
     
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    That kind of says it all, doesn't it? Michael Moore? As in, "Bowling for Columbine"? Thanks for proving my point for me. :D
     
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    That kind of says it all, doesn't it? Thanks.

    If that's your idea of considered thought, I wish you luck in your chosen career.

    Are you going to read it or not?

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  24. Sean Smith

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    A representative quote:

    I see, the (left-leaning) New York Times was part of a massive conspiracy to protect a (Republican's) supposed theft of the election? Do tell... terribly persuasive... no, really... ;)
     
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    So, Sean, your rebuttal is more name-calling. Impressive.

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