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The whole thing smells fishy to me. In Texas, there is a state law prohibiting firing a "projectile" across property lines without permission from the landowners. This law was enacted to stop hunters from placing hunting blinds too lose to property bounderies and shooting onto neighboring deer leases. But it is illegal to shoot across property lines, none-the-less. If there were bullets ricocheting across their property, they would be charged.
 
Seems to me less of an issue of living near a range and more of an issue of unsafe backstop or shooting practices.
 
I've always wondered why people think they can tell caliber from deformed bullets or holes in the wall. The range should do something about bullets leaving their property. You'd think they'd want to correct the problem before someone gets hurt and the range gets sued.
 
I've seen several people send bullets over the berm. I've also seen several people hit the ground in front of the berm, far enough that the bullet may have made it over. Hate to admit it, but I sent a .30cal SMK over the 100 yd berm once. If bullets are making it to this persons property, I hope they are successful at stopping it, even if it means shutting the range down. If they're lying about it, I hope karma is real...
 
Why not build up the berm. just doze another 10 ft of dirt above the exhisting height. Not hard to do, or expensive, and should solve the problem.
Or cover the guys house with a bullet proof dome."just kiding"
He looks like a story teller, if the news was coming to my house I would be showing then the actual bullet and holes made in the trees and wherever else he claimed they went.
 
I would hope my rounds always strike the berm, but in the real world crap happens. If my house and trees were being struck by stray rounds and a news crew showed up. You could bet your rump I would be showing them places that were impacted (struck) as opposed to just telling them.
 
I'm more worried about getting hit by ricochets at the range, which I have encountered. They don't exactly tickle. I noticed the large dirt piles passed as berms at that range and thats about the minimum that should be the backstop for a range. It needs to be surrounded by trees if possible.
 
Rounds should penetrate trees not riccochet. If they are indeed riccochetiing off the trees then the bullet has pretty well spent its energy already.

Not necessarily. Bullets can glance off the heads of animals, people, or the exterior convex surface of trees.

The other aspect is a compromise. You can have bullets that penetrate an edge or small limb, but continue afterwards in a deviated flight path. The result is both penetration and deflection.

What is there to be said? If the range has rounds leaving the range property they are causing a problem for others. If they are there should be physical evidence of it where the wild rounds have hit the trees/ground. If that exists the home owners have a case against the range. If the claims are false and there are no rounds escaping the range there won't be any evidence of it and there won't be much opportunity to making a case.

Right. Rounds sometimes leave ranges. Unintentional causes are as ricochets or negligent discharges.

Look at the rounds that manage to fly over the backstops. Some of the rounds are deflected high and then only pose a very limited falling rock risk sort of risk. Other rounds can be seen skipping of the group and leaving at a low angle with velocity. Some manage to be direct fired over the berm...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCsnSr6lqKM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifYSNO93vbI

In my own experience, I have seen tracers skip off the top of a dirt berm and continue down right at velocity.

While neighborhoods and such may grow up around gun ranges that originally were fairly isolated out in the country, it is still the responsibility of the range managment or owners to see that rounds don't leave the ranges in which they were fired and of those that do, not leave the range's property boundaries.

From what I can tell, many isolated country ranges bank on having a safety buffer of land surround the range that is unoccupied. Hence, any rounds leaving the range are no threat. The problem is, most ranges do not own the properties around them that they are counting on as a safety buffer. Using land you don't own as a buffer zone is really a bad idea and potentially illegal as it involves shooting across property lines.

We were doing shooting drills from on our backs at Thunder Ranch in Texas. The angle of the shots from shooters into their targets was such that rounds would impact very high on the berm or completely miss the berm and leave the range a full velocity. This wasn't a safety issue, explained Clint Smith, since the land beyond the berm was managed by TR and hence was being used as a buffer zone. I didn't like this given that we could not see beyond our target and bacstop, but Smith proclaimed responsibility.
 
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I certainly hope they get the range fixed. The range I work at as a RSO has a baffle system. Yet not even these are ricochet proof. We occasionally hear a round skip and get out. Thankfully the direction that we are shooting does not have a home within 4 miles.

We are working our butts off trying to make things safer. Volunteers are getting organized to build a eye-brow over the end berm. We try like crazy to maintain a safe range but to be reasonably relaxed at the same time. There have been numerous threads about the nazi range safety officers and how dare they tell me how to shoot. Sometimes its for a reason and it sounds like this range needs to step up. Either with new safety features or rules on shooting or both.

Our baffles are full of 9mm and 45acp slugs yes I have dug them out. From people who just try and drain mags as fast as possible. Problem is most of them do a piss poor job of hitting a target during slow fire. So they think spray and pray is better:banghead:

Hopefully this issue can be fixed before someone gets hurt from something that can be prevented.
 
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