Have you tried Lazergrips/Crimson Trace??

[M2 Carbine]

I bought one for my Kimber.

I liked it so well, I bought one for my S&W Model 60.

I liked it so well, I bought one for my S&W Model 10.

If they made them for several other brands, that I have, I'de buy a couple more.


BTW
Go out at night when there's low clouds and drizzle and the Laser makes a nice light show

 

[bubbygator]

ProCharger: In my book, there is no comparison between CT and Lasermax. If my Lasermax (on Glock26) hadn't been the first laser I tried, I would never had bought it. If I can find someone to take it off my hands, I'll switch to the CT for the Glock - even though that version is much more expensive. But that's just my opinion - your mileage may vary.

When speaking of distance, I'll only speak of the CT, since the Lasermax is worthless at distance IMHO. In bright sunlight, it's difficult to see the CT spot past 7 yards... and even at 7 yards it can washout depending upon the target color. A light-colored target which is brightly reflecting sunlight from behind the shooter is very difficult. As most defensive shooters say: Don't depend on a laser to save your life; depend on iron. But in anything except bright sunlight, the CT is still useful.

And indoor and in almost any reduced light situation outdoors, the CT spot can be easily seen out to more than 25 yards. Finding the spot quickly depends upon the exact combination of lighting + target conditions. It is harder to find the spot on a background that is light-colored or very broken-up in texture.

In very low light, the spot can easily be seen at least to 50 yards (which is just the farthest I've checked); and the background seems to make much less difference. Yes, at night you can really see that mutha!

Also, someone whose eyesight is good (mine is poor) might have a much better opinion of the CT at distance.

 

[Kentucky Rifle]

Hey Pro...

Re: C-T's in the dark. I snuck outside the other night to "just look". With my 642 UNLOADED and double checked, I could put a bright spot on the back of my neighbor's garage...and it's probably 150+ meters away! I've posted it before, but maybe some have forgotten. I went down to Shelbyville to a small gunshow where a guy had just installed a new-just out of the box-Lazermax guide rod in a Glock 26 or 27. I watched him put it in. First, he tried to put a dot on the far wall. *Nothing. Then he tried to put a dot on the dark ceiling. *Nothing again. (He was getting disgusted at this point.) He then tried the closest wall. He got a dim, "pulsating" dot.
I don't know why these things are A HUNDRED (!) dollars more than Crimson Trace. Maybe because it's a guide rod thing. However, to my way of thinking, NOTHING (Civilian) beats the Crimson Trace grips.

(JMO) KR

 

[ProCharger]

Well it looks like Crimsom Trace hands down....only problem I have is I would have to loose my nice wrap around grips on my beretta brigadier

 

[oldfella]

I've just installed a set of CT Laser grips and a Big Dot front sight on my new S&W M60... these old eyes never had it so good!

 

[Ky Larry]

I have CT's on my everyday carry Kimber. They are a great extra option to iron sights. Make sure you practice a lot with both. Shoot well and often.

 

[steelhead]

I have them for my 92FS and on my 640-1 with XS Big dot trit.

 

[OEF_VET]

I'm selling a set of Crimson Trace grips for S&W K, L, & N frames. Check out this thread.

I think they are a great asset to have available as a back-up to iron sights. However, due to recurring wrist problems, I need a set of grips that will absorb recoil better.

Frank

 

[yzguy]

I have not used the laser max, but here are the reasons why not:
1)most lasermax units are not adjustable, if they are off, you must live with it.
2)you must turn them on when you draw, using something other than your normal grip (not to hard to learn, but still not just a normal grip)
3) I have heard that you can get powder buld up on the tip of the unit after a few rounds wich dims the laser (makes sense but I have no first hand experience)

I would not try to take a shot at 50 yards with them.... At 30 feet the dot is dancing pretty good, and would probably be about the farthest I'd try it.