Hawaii .50 caliber ban being revive

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Received this today on my email

HRA Legislative Alert
HB 2999, the "omnibus bill" that we reported as being deferred
indefinitely (dead) in the House Judiciary Committee has been resurrected
Vice Chair Rep Blake Oshiro advised HRA that he intends to pass an
amended version that would ban the .50 BMG firearms and ammunition
(the rest of the bill will be deleted).

We need all members to contact the key Committee Members below and
urge them to vote against this bill. No matter if you live in their
districts. E-mail them and then follow up with a phone call to their
office. Ask to speak to the Representative, or if they are
unavailable, an aide, about your opposition to HB2999.
We then need as many as possible to be there for the decision making
(no testimony taken). Decision making is scheduled for Thursday
2/28/08 at 2:45pm, Room 325 at the Capitol. We want them to look us
in the eye as they cast their vote!
Let's mobilize the troops to stop this "stepping stone" attack on our
gun rights.
Go to the HRA Web Site for more details. www.hawaiirifleassociationorg
Mark Plischke and Max Cooper
HRA Legislative Co-Chairs
Key House Judiciary Committee Members:
Chair: Representative Tommy Waters E-mail
[email protected] phone 586-9450 ***
Members:

Representative Cindy Evans [email protected] 586-851
Representative Josh Green [email protected] 586-9605
Representative Angus L.K. McKelvey [email protected]iigov 586-6160
Representative Joseph M. Souki [email protected] 586-9444
Representative Clift Tsuji [email protected] 586-8480
Representative Ryan I. Yamane [email protected] 586-6150
Representative Kyle T. Yama****a repyama****[email protected] 586-6330
Representative Kymberly Marcos Pine [email protected] 586-9730
 
Dumb question but is there any 50 cal weapons in HI at all? Or is there even a place to shoot at any large distance without a volcano getting in the way?
And I'm sure the amount of crimes being committed with those evil things is skyrocketing. After all everyone knocks of 7-11 with 25lb 3 foot long rifles.:barf:
 
Dumb question but is there any 50 cal weapons in HI at all?

We actually know the answer to that question since we're now required to register all firearms in the state of Hawaii. The answer is yes, there are a total of ~120 in the state and ~90 on Oahu.

Or is there even a place to shoot at any large distance without a volcano getting in the way?

The Puuloa military range allows .50BMG (there is civilian access) and there are some mountain/tundra like wide open hunting areas. Also, yesterday the house bill to build a new 1000 yard range on the big island passed the finance committee and will be heading to the floor.
 
I don't own a .50 BMG, nor have I shot one, but I can see problems with this bill in the long run. If they ban the .50, what will they ban next? I don't want my gun rights infringed on any further (I can only have 10 round mags in Hawaii).
 
When was the last time Hawaii even had a gun crime?

(Sorry, I am ignorant as to the crime rate of Hawaii. It's just that don't hear about any school shootings or mall massacres on our country's island of luaus and sunshine. Then again, maybe Hawaii is not as innocent as the Travel Channel suggests. In either case, this bill seems entirely unprovoked.)
 
I can only have 10 round mags in Hawaii

The capacity limit only applies to magazines that can be inserted into a pistol. And for practical purposes that means a pistol that is registered within the state of Hawaii. For example, 30 rd AK mags are just fine as there are no AK "assault pistols" (as described under state law) registered here.
 
When was the last time Hawaii even had a gun crime?

The attorney general has not release statistics since 2005. In the last report:

Of the 3,122 murders, robberies, and aggravated assaults reported statewide during 2005, 42.9% were committed using strongarm weapons (i.e., hands, fists, and feet), 26.3% with “other” or unknown weapons, 19.6% with edged weapons, and 11.2% with firearms.

Crime in Hawaii 2005
 
We actually know the answer to that question since we're now required to register all firearms in the state of Hawaii.

Maybe I'm reading too much into that answer but I just wonder why you say "now?" I was in the 25th ID at Schofield Barracks from 85 to 89. I brought guns with me from Oklahoma. I had to hand carry each and every gun into the Honolulu PD to have them registered. Felt kind of odd to carry a Steyr AUG into a police station! Then the lady behind the counter was determined to physically measure the barrel length. But she couldn't figure out the whole bullpup thing. So I freaked her out a bit by just pulling the barrel out and handing her that!

There were lots of nice things about living in Hawaii but the gun laws were not one of them.

Gregg
 
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