HD Gun - Night Sights or not?

HD Gun -Night Sights or not?

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Why not give yourself every advantage? This isn't supposed to be a fair fight.
 
Custom done tritium equipped adjustables on an HK USP45....the sight picture looks like: _._

And a light too..........
 
No.

I've got night sights on several guns but except for practice once in a while I have no use for them.

All my defense guns that can be equipped with (good) lasers, are.

I practice a good bit of low light/dark shooting (home range) and (for me) the night sights don't begin to compete for speed and accuracy with the lasers and laser/lights.

For instance.
This is my level of speed and accuracy firing single shots in daylight with iron sights. In other words I'm having to bring the gun up and on target every shot.
In near dark using night sights I'm way slower and not near as accurate as this.
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And here is the same drill using the laser. WAY faster and way more accurate than (me) using night sights.
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Why??? You state it's for HD. Are you actually going to have that much time, (millisecs) to draw a gun aim then shoot while the BG/BG's is coming at you?
 
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ur last sentence is quite understandable, without nite sites, i am sure you would even be slower yet.
 
For those speaking on total darkness: I understand your point 100%. Light, night sights and/or laser make ALOT of sense. Our setup is such: The bedroom is very dark. The front of the house has a fair bit of ambient light from outside (street lamp) and a few well placed night lights. If someone is there, I'll see them without question, but if I'm in the bedroom doorway, taking cover, I have minimal light behind me to illuminate the standard sights. This makes it difficult, in my mind, to be on target should the need arise.

Sounds like there's no real disadvantage to NOT having them. Guess I'll be saving up my pennies.....now, which ones?!?!?!?!
 
Just bear in mind that flashlight and/or laser also gives the BG a really good target.
 
I don't have any, because none of my guns are applicable for them...
BUT, if I could get some, I surely would.
so.....I didn't vote because I am stuck in the middle.
 
357wheelgunner said:
If I can't see my sights, I can't see my target.
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True if you're talking about total, pitch-black darkness. Night sights do not of course illuminate the target. However, in low (but that still allows you to ID the target) light, a sufficiently bright night sight is much more visible than any non-illuminated sight, even those with white dot or bar patterns.
 
this is where proper technique, and training in low light becomes important.
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Very true. But how many people actually take the time to get that training?? I betting a very small percentage of the total gun owners make the effort. Night shooting, even in dim light is difficult. Acquiring the target and taking the shot happens in milliseconds. The minute you turn on that light you better be ready to shoot because that BG is not going to wait for you to take aim, he's going to attack or run.
 
No such thing as too much advantage in a gun fight.

Glock 21SF, 15+1, Meprolight NS, Streamlight TLR-2 Light/Laser.
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more importantly to me is a good flashlight.
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Before you shoot at the target, you must IDENTIFY the target. The operational philosophy for lowlight engagements is navigate, locate, identify and engage. A Flashlight is MANDATORY ahead of night sights or lasers.
 
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Just bear in mind that flashlight and/or laser also gives the BG a really good target.
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This is only correct if the user does not know how to use the laser/light correctly.

If used correctly all the BG should see is a flash of blinding white light or red light a split second before he feels the bullets.
Or when the light comes on, he should be smart enough to know that any movement will get him instantly shot.

Understand, I'm a slow 70 year old shooter and from the above laser target you can see that even as slow as I am the BG only has a maximum of 1.62 seconds to react and shoot me when he sees the laser.

Actually less than 1.62 seconds because I light the laser/light as the gun is coming up.
 
Originally Posted by 357wheelgunner
If I can't see my sights, I can't see my target.
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It can be dark enough to not be able to see the sights but still identify the target. Most of my laser practice is done at that time.

For instance, this evening when I was checking out the laser Zero on my Kimber Tactical Ultra.
I Zero in my lasers at 25 yards, so the bullet strike is within a couple inches of the laser dot from arms length to 40+ yards
(My HD includes a big yard and out buildings).

By the time I shot the 40 yard target it was so dark that the target was just a Gray blur. Even though I couldn't see the gun sights at all I could still make out a person.

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Before you shoot at the target, you must IDENTIFY the target. The operational philosophy for lowlight engagements is navigate, locate, identify and engage. A Flashlight is MANDATORY ahead of night sights or lasers.
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True.
That's why I favor a laser/light, like the Streamlight TLR-2, above just a laser and way above night sights.

For inexpensive laser/light and light/gun sight practice I installed a rail on my Ruger Mk II.
The gun also makes a good walking around the place at night combination.

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