Headspace - As It Applies To Reloading For Rifles.

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After reading so many posts on the internet, ranging from new reloaders who ask why their newly resized cartridges won’t fit in their chambers, to experienced reloaders who are operating without anything more than a rudimentary knowledge of what they are doing, I felt I should write this article. So, here is a primer as to how headspace works with rimless, nonmagnum, bottleneck cartridges, as commonly used in bolt action rifles. First, essentially, headspace is a relationship between a rifles chamber dimensions (boltface to datum line), and the external dimensions (case base to datum line) of a cartridge case. The datum line is defined as the midpoint on a cartridge’s shoulder and the corresponding area in a rifle chamber. Sure, from a technical viewpoint, headspace is strictly defined as a chamber dimension, and with factory ammo using the standard external case dimensions needed to conform to a SAAMI spec chamber, it is. However, once we enter into the world of reloading, with the many different resizing die setups used by reloaders (brought about by the vague resizing die setup instructions by the die manufacturers), the standard external cartridge dimensions common to factory ammo are usually not to be found.

For the purpose of showing the relationship between a chamber and a cartridge’s external dimensions, I will use the .308 Winchester as an example (see pic.). Headspace standards for commercial cartridges are established by SAAMI (Sporting Arms & Manufacturers’ Institute). For the .308 Winchester, the minimum chamber headspace is set at 1.630”, and the maximum at 1.638”. Most factory .308 Win ammo has case headspace dimensions of 1.628”, which allows for chambering in rifles which have minimum chamber specs. That’s right, I said “case headspace”. Both knowledgeable reloaders and the reloading companies know it as case headspace (Hornady sells a tool called a Headspace Gauge for measuring your brass). Remember, we said earlier that headspace is a relationship between a chamber and the external dimensions of a cartridge case. So, we can see that the relationship is one in which the external case dimensions (case base to datum line) are ideally one in which there is just a few thousands difference between the case dimensions, and the slightly larger chamber dimensions. If your rifle’s headspace measures between 1.630” and 1.633” (you can measure it with a set of Go, NoGo, and Field headspace gauges), you are in good shape. However, if your headspace is on the long side (1.634” to 1.638”), you will likely find yourself with short brass life and perhaps sub par accuracy. From this we can see that by using factory ammo in a rifle with an in spec SAAMI chamber , we will ideally have no more .005” headspace difference between our chamber and case, and certainly no more than .010” difference. So, what happens when we screw our FL sizing die into the press according to the crude die companies instructions? Well, without measuring the case headspace with a tool such as the RCBS Precision Mic (pic.) or the Hornady Loc-N-Load Headspace Gauge Tool (pic.), we have no idea as to the dimensions of our case, and this can and will throw off the relationship between the chamber headspace and the case headspace. Sure, if the newly resized case doesn’t fit in your chamber (insufficient headspace – the most common problem of new reloaders), you can adjust the die further down into the press, but what if your resized case fits in your long chamber (chamber headspace of 1.636”) and your case headspace is now 1.624”? Well, you have just induced an excessive headspace condition in your chamber (even though by SAAMI standards, your rifle does not have excessive headspace), and open yourself up to the possibility of having your brass case come apart from 60,000 psi of pressure, right in front of your face. The .012” difference between your case headspace of 1.624” and your chamber headspace of 1.636”, is no different than the .012” difference in a rifle that fails a field reject headspace gauge test (1.640”) and factory ammo (1.628”). This is why headspace is more that just a static chamber dimension when you are reloading rifle ammo. Hope this helps.

Don
 
The whole thing is rather simple to those that understand it, but, as you are well aware, many do not and further, seem to have a very difficult time grasping it. Perhaps your little essay will help, as it is pretty straight and simple. Good job!

The basics described are precisely why I advocate (and follow) the premis of neck sizing for bottleneck cases as opposed to FL sizing. I indeed find it of greatest value on belted cases, but also very beneficial with non-belted. Even with upper end loads, I generally find 5-7 loadings with neck sizing only is possible before a FL run is needed. Then, with proper adjustment, even the FL sizing need not be drastic regarding it's effect in moving shoulders back. I regularly approach 15 loadings with .338 brass, all near full power. With smaller, i.e. '06, .270, 6.5x55, etc., I regularly get even more case useage (life).
 
I think I get it. If you resize your case to much you will create extra room between the case head and the bolt face (excessive head clearance) creating stretching of the brass when fired. Right?
 
USSR

I will use the .308 Winchester as an example (see pic.). Headspace standards for commercial cartridges are established by SAAMI (Sporting Arms & Manufacturers’ Institute).

Do you have a link to the headspace standards SAAMI has for cartridges?
 
Bullet,

All you have to do is check the dimensions of GO and Field gauges to find out what the headspace dimensions are for various cartridges. Here are the dimensions of the Forster .308 headspace gauges that Brownells sells:

319-308-630
.308 (7.62 Nato) Match Gauge, 1.630" GO

319-308-634
.308 & .243 Winchester, 1.640” NO-GO

319-308-638
.308 (7.62 Nato) Match Gauge, 1.638" Field

I think I get it. If you resize your case to much you will create extra room between the case head and the bolt face (excessive head clearance) creating stretching of the brass when fired. Right?

Okay, now would you please tell us where you get your head clearance gauges, and what the SAAMI head clearance specs are for the .308 Winchester?

Don
 
USSR
I don’t know everything and find myself still learning. I believe nothing productive will be accomplished if I post in your thread. Sorry I posted in your thread. It won’t happen again.

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Bullet--No, you don't have it. But let's try and get there. What you have created if you size your case "too much", i.e. move the shoulder back too far, is to create too short a distance between the bolt face and the shoulder (actually the datum of the shoulder, but let's stay simple) of your case IN YOUR CHAMBER. Everything applies to your chamber. Unadjusted, sizing die A may produce sized cases that are perfect for chamber X, but too short for chamber Y, and yet again too long for chamber Z. You need to size the brass for your particular chamber in order to address CARTRIDGE HEADSPACE. I have a fine gun that has a chamber way above SAAMI specs, but as long as I size my brass to fit MY chamber, it is perfect. Technically, one might call it a wildcat, because it does not meet the SAAMI specs for a 6.5x55, but because I size my brass to fit that chamber, it is a fine rifle. If I size the cases to meet SAAMI specs, I have excess cartridge headspace--indeed, enough that the firing pin may not set off the primer. So, I size the cases to fit the chamber, meaning I produce cartridges with the proper headspace to fit MY chamber. Are we getting there?
 
USSR
I don’t know everything and find myself still learning. I believe nothing productive will be accomplished if I post in your thread. Sorry I posted in your thread. It won’t happen again.

Bullet,

You kind of got off on the wrong foot regarding the whole headspace thing. If you don't know about something (and nobody knows everything), then you don't tell people who do know and are trying to explain the concept, that they are mistaken. Learning involves listening, evaluating, and asking questions, as opposed to taking positions about something you know nothing about. So, please put this behind you and feel free to post in any of my threads. Life's too short to hold a grudge.

Don
 
Head space is perhaps the simplist concept and hardest to explain term in handloading. It need not be so.

Headspace is basically the chamber room for the cartridge to fit into.

If there is insufficent headspace the bolt won't close until the case is made smaller. When the case is sized so that it just fits, the headspace is perfect NO MATTER THE ACTUAL DIMENSIONS. That's one of the reasons handloaders have an advantage, we can accomidate chambers that are too large but that advantage is negated if the case is over resized each time, as it usually is if the user follows the die makers instructions to the letter.

Carefully adjust the size die until the bolt just closes snuggly and all will be well. Sized until it's a sloppy fit in the chamber makes for excess headspace but the case will stretch to fit at each firing. Sooner or later that will result in a head seperation.
 
Thanks for the post and the replies.

I am a neophyte, greenhorn, flailing beginner, just getting into loading .308. Setting up the FL die into a Lee Classic Turret press, as the instructions call for, I could not close the bolt on my rifle using the resized brass. I now have the RCBS mic on the way. Don't want to shoot blind... figuratively and literally.
 
319-308-630
.308 (7.62 Nato) Match Gauge, 1.630" GO

319-308-634
.308 & .243 Winchester, 1.640” NO-GO

319-308-638
.308 (7.62 Nato) Match Gauge, 1.638" Field

Drawback of hand keying in detailed data.
A Forster .308 No-Go is 1.634"
I suggest you verify all load data and dimensions submitted by strangers over the internet.

I have never had any trouble with brass sized according to the simple Wilson fixed cartridge gauge. I seldom use my Stoney Point (now Hornady) adjustable.
 
The .012” difference between your case headspace of 1.624” and your chamber headspace of 1.636”, is no different than the .012” difference in a rifle that fails a field reject headspace gauge test (1.640”) and factory ammo (1.628”). This is why headspace is more that just a static chamber dimension when you are reloading rifle ammo. Hope this helps.

Good points, but there is a difference. In the case of brass resized with too little cartridge HS, it should still have no thin points when the pressure of the expanding gasses puff it up to the chamber dimensions. In the case of excess CHAMBER headspace, the cartridge may be forced to expand beyond the ability of its material to stretch, thus causing a breach in the case wall.

At least that's how I understand it, and why the chamber headspace is a deal-breaker for a rifle, while cartridge dimensions literally have some flex to them.
 
Good points, but there is a difference. In the case of brass resized with too little cartridge HS, it should still have no thin points when the pressure of the expanding gasses puff it up to the chamber dimensions. In the case of excess CHAMBER headspace, the cartridge may be forced to expand beyond the ability of its material to stretch, thus causing a breach in the case wall.

At least that's how I understand it, and why the chamber headspace is a deal-breaker for a rifle, while cartridge dimensions literally have some flex to them.

Hmmm, interesting point, Cosmoline. While I have no way of proving this one way or the other, I would think that the same amount of excessive stretching of the case (.012") during firing would have a similar effect upon the web area of the case, leading to an eventual case head seperation.

Don
 
Good points, but there is a difference. In the case of brass resized with too little cartridge HS, it should still have no thin points when the pressure of the expanding gasses puff it up to the chamber dimensions.

It does not matter.

The cartridge will want to be pushed forward by the firing pin hit. Then the thinner front of the case expands to seal the chamber and the rear of the case stretches back to the breech face. If this distance is too far or the brass is already thin in the area just in front of the case head you can suffer a case head separation.

Headspace is exactly that. How far the case has available to stretch back to the breech face. It can not be too far or it is dangerous, obviously. That is why we have SAMMI limits for chambers and ammo. The handloader has control over how far they push the shoulder back, thus they control headspace.
 
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USSR this is a good post. And this is information I wish I had discovered when I first started reloading.

I discovered this year that my Ruger #1 had no headspace because I had only neck sized the .243 AI cartridges and they had stretched to the point of eliminating all headspace. This in turn makes the rifle string vertically.

The same thing occurs with my Encore.

But once I got the headspace right by bumping back the shoulder these rifles become tackdrivers.
 
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