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Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by 45Guy, Aug 6, 2006.

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  1. 45Guy

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    Just watched Heat, and had to make a couple comments, questions.

    I noticed that the only robber who didn't fire a fully automatic weapon was Tom Sizemore. Is this because of his criminal record? Also, I can't recall seeing Danny Trejo carrying or firing a weapon, and I'm almost positive that IS because of his record.

    Also, I love the scene where Al Pacino shoots Tom Sizemore because of how well Al Pacino sets up. Properly seats the weapon, breathing control, sight alignment, and my favorite, after he fires you can hear him release the trigger and it reseting itself.

    ALWAYS NICE TO SEE GOOD WEAPONS HANDLING IN THE MEDIA.
     
  2. Devonai

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    Use the search function to find out everything you ever wanted to know about this movie.

    As to the criminal element, full-auto versus semi or associating with felons who carry is irrelevent. In for a penny, in for a pound, you're going back for good this time.
     
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    I thought that even an actor had to abide by the California laws governing who is allowed to "have" a weapon.
     
  4. Devonai

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    Ohhhh. Right. In that case, I don't know. I think non-guns would be safe for anybody.

    My friends and I use actors names and character names interchangably if we know both.
     
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    Tom Sizemore's character uses a FAL to kill the armored truck courier. Don't know if it was FA or not.. but I don't think a crew like that would have a SA battle rifle.
     
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    Hmm...interesting point. Thing is, in the armored car robbery scene, all the members of "Neil McCauley's" crew are wearing goalie masks, so it doesn't necessarily follow that either Tom Sizemore or Danny Trejo were actually handling firearms at the time the scene was filmed - it could just as easily be a stand-in as "Trejo"(the character) deploying the spike-strip with a slung AK folder, or as "Michael Cheritto" shooting the FAL.

    At the truck stop, where "Waingro" escapes the crew, Sizemore and Trejo are the lookouts - only De Niro actually pulls a pistol. "Cheritto" may have a pistol in his hand as they search the parked trailers, but it's hard to tell if it's really Sizemore or a stand-in in the shadows.

    However, it's definitely Tom Sizemore pumping the Benelli M3 in the drive-in shootout, and handling the Galil in the bank robbery scene...although, the way the bank scene is edited, you never get a clear full-face shot of Tom actually shooting the Galil, it could be a stand-in mocked-up with "Cheritto's" costume and hair.

    Couple of things to keep in mind about Tom Sizemore, though - I think he did do a lot of on-screen shooting in Saving Private Ryan, maybe he could do so depending on the jurisdiction where that film was shot(on location in France?); furthermore, I kinda want to think that his rap-sheet post-dates Heat, and thus wouldn't have made a difference...

    EDIT - According to my Heat: Special Edition DVD, Tom Sizemore was actually put through live-fire weapons training at a CA shooting range for the film(there's a brief sequence of Sizemore himself actually shooting a pistol on multiple targets), so I guess he was able to handle firearms at that time...
     
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    Everyone knows that actors are exempt from gun laws. How many actors that have been convicted of domestic violence still use guns in movies?

    Seriously, there is no law differentiating between the types of firearms an actor may use in a film and his criminal record. A gun is a gun. Technically, anyone with a felony record or any domestic violence conviction is not to be near a firearm, much less actually hold and shoot one. Hollywood and the law enforcement community doesn't seem to care.
     
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