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armoredman
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CorBon makes some hot 38 Super ammo. Good round, long maligned and forgotten, but good.
Ah, yes Grasshopper... you have stumbled onto the great problem with the .38 Super: factory ammo!
The original idea of the Super was focused on penetration. In the late 1920s and early 1930s (heyday of the "motorized robbers") the cops complained that their .38 Specials couldn't get through the car bodies. Colt souped up the old .38 ACP and loaded it with a pointed, 130 grain FMJ. All penetration and little energy transfer.
But, all those old .38 ACP guns were still floating around, out there, and by the 1970s the lawyers were telling the ammo companies to tone it down or face ruinous lawsuits. The last batch of factory Super ammo I clocked passed over the screens at a wimpy 1080 FPS! This is, by the way, the same velocity achieved by the .38 ACP. See what happened? They quietly began loading the Super to the same pressures as the older cartridge.
Another strike against the Super is that it never really caught on big-time, so the lack of demand has limited what the ammo makers have offered.
The Super is one of those calibers that requires hand loading. I load lead 125 RN at 1,150 FPS for plinking and 115 JHPs at 1,500 FPS for carry. Yes, these bark but I have used them without trouble in both a Gov't Model and a LW Commander (although sparingingly in the alloy gun).
The original idea of the Super was focused on penetration. In the late 1920s and early 1930s (heyday of the "motorized robbers") the cops complained that their .38 Specials couldn't get through the car bodies. Colt souped up the old .38 ACP and loaded it with a pointed, 130 grain FMJ. All penetration and little energy transfer.
But, all those old .38 ACP guns were still floating around, out there, and by the 1970s the lawyers were telling the ammo companies to tone it down or face ruinous lawsuits. The last batch of factory Super ammo I clocked passed over the screens at a wimpy 1080 FPS! This is, by the way, the same velocity achieved by the .38 ACP. See what happened? They quietly began loading the Super to the same pressures as the older cartridge.
Another strike against the Super is that it never really caught on big-time, so the lack of demand has limited what the ammo makers have offered.
The Super is one of those calibers that requires hand loading. I load lead 125 RN at 1,150 FPS for plinking and 115 JHPs at 1,500 FPS for carry. Yes, these bark but I have used them without trouble in both a Gov't Model and a LW Commander (although sparingingly in the alloy gun).
armoredman
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The CorBon doesn't seem to be wimpy....CorBon said:
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George S.
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Not a lot currently in stock but you can check here:
http://www.outdoormarksman.com/index.php?cPath=65_1_14 A JHP is listed but currently out of stock. Send them an e-mail asking about when they wil have more.
Cheaper Than Dirt seems to have a decent supply of .38 Super:
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd/ammo_results1.asp
http://www.outdoormarksman.com/index.php?cPath=65_1_14 A JHP is listed but currently out of stock. Send them an e-mail asking about when they wil have more.
Cheaper Than Dirt seems to have a decent supply of .38 Super:
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd/ammo_results1.asp
Armoredman, the Cor-Bon is close (100 grain bullet a little light IMHO) but this specialty ammo is usually VERY pricey. Winchester and Remington should be loading the Super to 1,350 with a 115 JHP but they aren't... and they won't. Thank the lawyers.
atblis
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Don't quote me on this
Supposedly 9x23 will work in some 38 super guns (Some people say yes and some no).
Supposing this is true
http://www.natchezss.com/brand.cfm?...&prodID=WNQ4304&CFID=1551103&CFTOKEN=96521576
Try it at your own risk.
Aguila 38 super for 8.40 a box (currently out of stock)
http://www.natchezss.com/ammo.cfm?c...odID=AU1E382112&CFID=1553338&CFTOKEN=60344825
Supposedly 9x23 will work in some 38 super guns (Some people say yes and some no).
Supposing this is true
http://www.natchezss.com/brand.cfm?...&prodID=WNQ4304&CFID=1551103&CFTOKEN=96521576
Try it at your own risk.
Aguila 38 super for 8.40 a box (currently out of stock)
http://www.natchezss.com/ammo.cfm?c...odID=AU1E382112&CFID=1553338&CFTOKEN=60344825
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