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Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by Bobson, Aug 17, 2011.

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  1. Bobson

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    My dad owns a gun I've always been very curious about.

    It's a .45 ACP semi-automatic SMG-style weapon, with either a 25 or 30 round magazine (I don't recall). It would easily classify as an ugly gun by most men's standards, but I've always been fond of it. It has dark wood furniture, and the whole rest of the gun is the same textured matte black metal as the magazine.

    My dad has always claimed he oversaw the making of it (and several others - it was allegedly a high-count order) when he was a machine shop foreman, when I was very young (Sometime between 1981 and 1989 is my best guess, my dad says he doesn't remember exactly when it was). He says he got it because it was the first one produced in his shop. I've never asked if he paid for it. I don't have a picture, but might be able to get one from my dad (though he tends to be distrusting about people regarding things like this and wouldn't approve of my posting the picture).

    I've never known my dad to be anything but completely honest, so I have no reason to believe he lied about where or how he got it, but I don't recall ever seeing any brand name stamped anywhere on it. I don't specifically remember seeing a serial number or caliber stamped on the barrel either, but they may be there.

    It's a .45 ACP semi-automatic weapon (roughly the same size as a Tommy Gun with the buttstock removed), with either a 25 or 30 round rectangular magazine (I don't recall the exact number, it may even be 20, but no less). It would easily classify as an ugly gun by most men's standards, but I've always been fond of it. It has dark wood furniture, and the whole rest of the gun is the same textured matte black metal as the magazine. He has only one magazine for it, and I've never seen any other gun quite like it.

    Identifying characteristics of the gun:

    - It has a pistol grip, and if my memory serves me correctly, no buttstock.
    - The magazine inserts and protrudes from the left side of the receiver.
    - There is no foregrip (my dad always used the magazine as a makeshift foregrip when he shot it)
    - Heat shield shroud over the barrel (like in the picture I supplied)

    This picture is the closest thing I could find online, compared to the gun my dad has, but I haven't seen it in around ten years either. The only difference I specifically remember about my dad's gun is it doesn't have a buttstock like the gun in this picture does, it's just a wooden pistol grip, more like that found on a traditional AK47.

    I know I'm not giving you guys a lot to go on, I've just always been curious about the gun. He always gave me as much detail as I wanted about any of his firearms, but he seemed to avoid getting detailed about this particular one.
     

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  2. GCBurner

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    Other than the side-feed magazine, it sounds kind of like the old Volunteer Enterprises "Commando .45", or some variant. The manufacturing time period is about right, as they ceased production in 1990.
    http://jtjersey.com/Mark45/Mark45.html
     
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    A .45ACP side feeder blowback?

    Were these for commercial sale or was this some weird gov't contract?
     
  4. tarosean

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    Where did you grow up??

    It sounds like a Sten copy..

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  5. Bobson

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    My dad told me it was an order for some government contract of some sort, but he never explained it beyond that. And as far as the area, I'm almost positive it would have been a machine shop in southern California somewhere, possibly in or around Anaheim or Riverside. If not that, then it had to be somewhere near Lynnwood, WA (we moved in 1987, when I was 2, and IDK if he got it before or just after the move).

    I'll call him today and see if he's willing to send me a picture, but I won't be surprised if he refuses. I remember it looking like a cross between the Mark 45 linked above, and the Sten, but with the heat shroud of the gun I posted a picture of... and no buttstock.

    Yeah, I'll see about that picture.
     
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    As I expected, my dad didn't want to give me a picture. He did tell me the model of the gun, which is stamped on the barrel. Its also the only thing stamped on the barrel.

    45 DMAX

    I did a google search but wasn't able to find a whole lot.

    Note: it is not the S1-100
     
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    Odd Job Can probably X-ray it

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    No, I had not. Thanks, that's the one. The DMAX 100P Pistol.
     

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