Help me identify this 30-06

[conquest]

I received this gun from my father after his passing. I cant really seem to find much information on it as I think it has a custom barrel and a replacement stock on it. I am also interested in knowing what kind of action it is. Also I have looked into getting mounts for the top but can not seem to find any as of yet.

Here is what I know. It is a 30-06 and has E R A on the side above the serials. The gun

Here are a few pictures that may help.

 

[snakeman]

Looks like a modified U.S. Enfield p14 or p17

 

[Ridgerunner665]

Definitely an Enfield...

 

[ClickClickD'oh]

Looks like a sporterized M1917 Enfield.

 

[rcmodel]

Yep.

Most likely a U.S. 1917, not a British 1914 Pattern 14.
http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.asp?smallarms_id=131

The sight protector ears have been ground off the rear receiver ring and rear sight removed.
Depending on how skillfully that was done will determine if a stock scope base will fit it or not.
I can't tell from the lousy pictures if it is drilled & tapped or not?

I'd suggest you turn it over to a gunsmith for safety inspection and scope mount fitting.

rc

 

[Freedom_fighter_in_IL]

Looks like a Remington, Eddistone made M17 Possibly a Winchester NH M17 that has been sporterized. From what little I can see of the rifle it looks to be a pretty fair job. For sure is a M17 action though.

 

[conquest]

The lousy pictures are the best I can do with my lousy phone. I thank you for the replies. Any idea what the era on the barrel is? Also there are tapped and drilled holes on top where mounts would go but i can seem to find any that would fit. The local gun shop closed down so it will be quite awhile before I have time to make it to a gun smith sadly.

 

[conquest]

The barrel is parkarized and the insides look like it has never been fired. Also I have found a stamp Dp on the trigger guard and mag plate. Not sure what that is. Also the barrel is 26 in's long.

Anyone know how to figure out who the stock is made by? Ive taken the stock off before and found no markings.

 

[Mike1234567]

I can't help but I had to jump in and say... that's one beautiful stock!!

 

[conquest]

I would have to agree that it is pretty. Just wish I knew what it was.

 

[Freedom_fighter_in_IL]

It would help greatly if you could zoom out and get the whole rifle in the picture. Could possibly identify the stock and would also help from seeing the barrel contour in ID as well.

 

[conquest]

This is the best I can do. The lighting in here is bad and my camera isnt so good.

 

[rcmodel]

I think from the Parkerized 26" barrel, it is an original M1917 30-06 barrel.

The stock?

Back around the late 50's & 60's, the U.S. M1917 rifle was a dime a dozen, and "sportizing" them in the home workshop, garage, or kitchen table was better then paying a months wages for a new commercial 30-06 hunting rifle.
It was also way more intertaining then what was on snowy antenna TV then.

The stock design, especially around the Monti Carlo comb, and toward the butt, is unconventional for a commercial stock blank of the time, to say the least.

My best guess is, a woodworker carved it out of a very nice chunk of American Walnut.
And should have spent just a little more time studying classic stock design before he got out the carving tools.

The contrasting grip cap design dates it to about that time period.
Or early Weatherby grip cap wannabe stock of the 1960's.

rc

 

[conquest]

That is some pretty good info I appreciate it. Do they generally make for accurate rifles?

 

[MJD]

Conquest, I have a sporterized Winchester M1917 with original barrel and locally sporterized stock that was passed down to me from my grandfather. It similarly had the rear sight protectors ground off and an aftermarket sight attached to it, sometime around the late 1940s. My particular M1917 will shoot 1.25 inch groups at 100 meters. I've taken a few deer with it; I find my rifle likes 150 grain Remington Core-Lokts.

If you don't reload and want to target shoot for (relatively) cheap, the HXP .30-06 from the CMP has shot pretty well for me.

Congratulations on a fine rifle and sorry that it was passed on from those circumstances. Those rifles are keepers.

 

[conquest]

I actually do reload. Not real familiar with loading 30.06 yet though.

 

[Freedom_fighter_in_IL]

The stock design, especially around the Monti Carlo comb, and toward the butt, is unconventional for a commercial stock blank of the time, to say the least.

It's a bit unorthodox in the overall cut but I still like it. I'm a little strange that way. I like unconventional, different things. Personally, I would slice 3 inches off and add an ebony forarm tip. Fairly easy to do and would REALLY set that pretty wood off.

 

[Freedom_fighter_in_IL]

It was also way more intertaining then what was on snowy antenna TV then.

I find it is still more interesting than what they pass on for TV these days as well. Even in HD!

 

[conquest]

The stock feels really good when brought up to my cheek. Hopefully I can get some mounts and a scope on it soon.

 

[303tom]

That is a Pattern 14 with the rear sight removed, & who ever did it done a damn nice job on it, let know how she shoots.........

 

[303tom]

Yep.

Most likely a U.S. 1917, not a British 1914 Pattern 14.
http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.asp?smallarms_id=131

The sight protector ears have been ground off the rear receiver ring and rear sight removed.
Depending on how skillfully that was done will determine if a stock scope base will fit it or not.
I can't tell from the lousy pictures if it is drilled & tapped or not?

I'd suggest you turn it over to a gunsmith for safety inspection and scope mount fitting.

rc

Did anyone actually read this ?

http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.asp?smallarms_id=131

Because who ever wrote it don`t know what they are talking about..........

 

[Freedom_fighter_in_IL]

Well Tom, Considering the Pattern 14 design was altered in the US to chamber the .30/06 to become the M17 I kind of find it hard to call it a P14. The P14 was in .303brit. When you can get a P14 to magazine and chamber a .30/06 round, gimmi a call. It's something I would like to see.