351 WINCHESTER
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I much prefer a 4" model 64. I gave up on rugers decades ago as I don't care for their triggers or actions. It's pretty darn hard to beat a good old smith & wesson.
Help me pick a new woods sidearm...
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mbr
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What about a 3-inch Ruger sp101? Much lighter, trimmer on the belt, yet still capable of full-power .357 ammo, and pleasant with the .38.
Thanks guys. Lots of great suggestions. Deciding on a new gun is really fun (for me, anyway).
See... I wasn't even aware of those. Very very cool. It will be on my "must-acquire" for sure.
Two questions: Can I shoot +P occasionally out of the venerable old S&W and Ruger six-series .38s? Is there a date line not to cross?
And... What should I expect to pay for the M10 I described above? It's supposedly a police duty weapon, so its visible condition is "considerable holster-wear"...
Thanks,
Les
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See... I wasn't even aware of those. Very very cool. It will be on my "must-acquire" for sure.
I'm leaning in this direction for the "new" farm/woods beater though. While Christmas shopping I was in "the" local Jewelry store talking with the owner, he noticed a pistol rug under my arm (I had picked-up a repair around the corner), and inquired, we got talking guns and he took me back to his vault and showed me a half-dozen guns of he's bought from another downtown merchant who was going out of business years back. Among them was a 1961 Winchester 94 NIB! (sn 24783XX), and a S&W model 10-8 (sn 523XX early 1970's), and they're for sale. The M10 even had a interesting local story to go along with it.broken said:
Two questions: Can I shoot +P occasionally out of the venerable old S&W and Ruger six-series .38s? Is there a date line not to cross?
And... What should I expect to pay for the M10 I described above? It's supposedly a police duty weapon, so its visible condition is "considerable holster-wear"...
Thanks,
Les
Radagast
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wrs840:
S&W do not recommend PlusP in guns made before 1957. Steel framed guns with a model number stamped in them should be fine with PlusP, as it is only a 10% pressure increase over the standard .38 special loads.
Aluminum framed guns are a different matter, unless specifically recommended by S&W I would not load PlusP rounds in one.
AFAIK there is no difference between the .38 special and .357 magnum Ruger Speed Six/ Security Six steel, so use of PlusP will be fine.
+P+ ammunition does not have an industry pressure rating and could even be at .357 magnum pressures. Such ammo is best left for guns chambered for the .357 magnum.
S&W do not recommend PlusP in guns made before 1957. Steel framed guns with a model number stamped in them should be fine with PlusP, as it is only a 10% pressure increase over the standard .38 special loads.
Aluminum framed guns are a different matter, unless specifically recommended by S&W I would not load PlusP rounds in one.
AFAIK there is no difference between the .38 special and .357 magnum Ruger Speed Six/ Security Six steel, so use of PlusP will be fine.
+P+ ammunition does not have an industry pressure rating and could even be at .357 magnum pressures. Such ammo is best left for guns chambered for the .357 magnum.
wheelgunslinger
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You're on the right track here.
Like MCgunner, I never leave myself in a position to not harvest some pork when it presents itself.
The piney woods also have lots of rattlesnakes, another delicious varmint with a beautiful hide to boot.
I would (and do) use something that's able to make use of both 38 and 357 mag for a woods gun since a woods gun is more of a "come what may" type accoutrement.
GP100 is generally a better choice. They're inexpensive, rugged, DA, and can be tricked out if you're the type who likes to farkle things. And, if you're not they work fine left alone.
I like single action revolvers too, but most people don't seem to like them for anything but a novelty nowadays.
Like MCgunner, I never leave myself in a position to not harvest some pork when it presents itself.
The piney woods also have lots of rattlesnakes, another delicious varmint with a beautiful hide to boot.
I would (and do) use something that's able to make use of both 38 and 357 mag for a woods gun since a woods gun is more of a "come what may" type accoutrement.
GP100 is generally a better choice. They're inexpensive, rugged, DA, and can be tricked out if you're the type who likes to farkle things. And, if you're not they work fine left alone.
I like single action revolvers too, but most people don't seem to like them for anything but a novelty nowadays.
dmazur
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Blasphemy!
Thanks guys... So this is where your suggestions led me...
I sold one of my two Taurus Judges today for $400.
I bought a police-trade S&W M64 4" in beautiful shape with Pachmayr grips as my new "woods gun", for $325.
And, um, since I had $ left over... ...this particular shopping expedition also led to the local acquisition of my first Beretta 92FS, mid-90s USA mfg, as new with blue plastic box, looks never fired, for $400...
I'll still keep a GP-100 on my list, but I'll probably buy a 6"bbl... Sometime this year...
Thanks for all the input, I'm happy, my wife's happy, life is good.
Les
I sold one of my two Taurus Judges today for $400.
I bought a police-trade S&W M64 4" in beautiful shape with Pachmayr grips as my new "woods gun", for $325.
And, um, since I had $ left over...
...this particular shopping expedition also led to the local acquisition of my first Beretta 92FS, mid-90s USA mfg, as new with blue plastic box, looks never fired, for $400... I'll still keep a GP-100 on my list, but I'll probably buy a 6"bbl... Sometime this year...
Thanks for all the input, I'm happy, my wife's happy, life is good.
Les
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