HELP! My AK has 2 Triggers!

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Any one have a fix for this, besides just not pushing the safety to far. From this video you can see it doesnt take much to release the hammer with the safety.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iru3uZ63lUk

This is my Century International Arms M70AB2. Someone brought this up on another forum and sure enough, you can fire the rifle using the safety.

From what others on an AK forum say this seems to be unique to the century rifles.

My friend who thinks he is in the movie Black Hawk Down tells me not to worry about it and then proceeds to tell me that his finger is his safety. While I agree with him it just doesnt seem right that the safety would act as a trigger.

I'm just thinking it could get caught on something. I would like to maybe weld a little something on the outside to stop the safety from going up to high. Good or bad idea?

what do you guys think?
 
That's been an issue with the Century Yugo's, at least some of the early ones.

Call Century and send it in for repair, that's an unsafe weapon.
 
That is the thing, its not that "this one" is messed up. The entire safety inside is designed different. I'll see if I can get some photos of the inside.
 
century will most likely be more than willing to fix it for free considering they are liable for selling an unsafe weapon

that is a lawsuit waiting to happen they probably need to issue a recall
 
There are a bunch of guys over at theakforum that noticed the same thing.
 
This is my Century International Arms M70AB2. Someone brought this up on another forum and sure enough, you can fire the rifle using the safety.
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I dont have an answer on the cause, or how to fix it (other than having Century pay to ship it back to be repaired/replaced), but just had to say that a safety that fires the gun is kinda the opposite of "safe", and you'd think even the drunken monkeys at Century could get that right, even on guns made3 at 4:59 on Friday before a 3 day weekend....
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A defective safety (especially one that doesnt just not block the gun from firing, but actually fires it :what:) is pretty near the top of list of unsat defect for a gun (not that ANY defects on something as potentially dangerous as a gun as ok, but you get my meaning)

I'd call Century and DEMAND they send a (whatever the thing is they send where you ship it on thier dime, the name/term escapes me) and that the gun be repaired or replaced at no cost, and shipped back, also at no cost, and I would try to get a little something (like some ammo or such) for my trouble, considering the seriousness of the defect.
 
"and you'd think even the drunken monkeys at Century could get that right, even on guns made3 at 4:59 on Friday before a 3 day weekend...."

Im thinking a couple of the drunken chimps on the dremmels got promoted a little early?
 
This "design flaw" is present on all semi-auto AK's. It's not a Century problem, no matter how some people on here continually bash them, and it's not really a flaw in the first place.

Let me explain.

Normally, the receiver cover keeps the safety from moving up to that extreme of an angle. There is a protruding part on the safety switch to prevent it from moving beyond the receiver cover. If the safety switch is modified or bent so that it can move past the receiver cover, then that mistake can happen.

With the receiver cover removed, you can see what happens to the internals when the safety is moved upwards like in the video. It won't happen with the receiver cover properly installed.

Don't worry about this happening spontaneously. In the video, it looks like the user bent the safety switch out to allow this to happen.

Moral of the story: Don't modify the safety switch of the AK. It is designed to work. Obviously any machine, when modified past it's designed specifications, will fail at some point. This is just one of those points.
 
You could probably send it in, or just let it alone. The safety might be bumped all the way up like that, but I doubt it would happen in normal use.
 
Picard, I've seen this first hand with out of the box Century Yugo's with unmodified safety levers, WITH THE DUSTCOVER IN PLACE.

It's a known issue with Century built Yugo's, at least some of the early rifles.

Send the rifle back to Century for repair.
 
"Don't worry about this happening spontaneously. In the video, it looks like the user bent the safety switch out to allow this to happen."

That is me in the video. I am not bending the safety lever. The dust cover is in place. You can hear to snaps. One where it goes into safe and one where it pops out and up. All you hear and see is it popping out of safe. it is very smooth as it goes up and trips the trigger. I dont have a very good vid camera, I took that with my regular digital camera.
 
Also, after sleeping on it, I dont think I am to worried. I never use the safety anyway and dont keep the rifle chambered. I was just letter other know.
 
On my Yugo, the safety cannot go above the dust cover. Perhaps if you removed the safety and bent it in a little so that it can't go over.
 
Send that in to get it fixed!

You might not mind, but suppose you die, and someone else inherits the gun... and then accidentally shoots and kills another person with it????

That is extremely dangerous!
 
I am actually going to try to bend the safety lever a little. thanks for the suggestion
 
I have a Century M70ab2,mine doesnt do that...I know it seems a hassle to send it back to Century for a repair,maybe a local gunsmith should look at it?Think of the liability...and correcting it would be a good thing!

Its you AK however,do as you wish.
 
I would suggest taking off the top cover and fully understanding why this is happening. This is, infact, a problem with all semi auto AK's, not just a century issue. 'Real' AK47's will not do this because the disconnector in those rifles have a tail and a bump on that tail that does not allow the safety to put force high up on the trigger group, that force rotates the trigger forward and trips the hammer. That being said, there are two fixes for this.

What you have right now is a safety meant for a fully automatic AK 47. If you look at where the safety contacts the trigger you will notice that there is an area to the right of the disconnector that the safety hits on the trigger. You don't need the part of the safety that hangs behind the disconnector, only the part that connects with the trigger. I will not suggest doing this because I do not know how much side to side play your trigger has, and you can completely ruin the safety if you are not careful. It is a fine line between this working, and not being worth doing.

The other option, like Picard said is to bend the end of your safety back to where it belongs. The top cover, when installed, will block the safety from moving up that far.

I should also note if you were to fire an AK like that, you're going to have many more problems than a safety firing the gun. First off the bolt will try to ride back on the rails, the trigger is now locked in place by the safety pushing the trigger group forward, your hammer, trigger, disconnector, and trigger pin as well as receiver will take damage, also, your safety is now in the way of the normal path of the bolt carrier handle. One only knows what would happen when a safety locked in a receiver is hit by a bolt carrier flying backwards under the force of gas from a round being fired.
 
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