Help the Jews Preserve Firearms Ownership?

Should I join JFPO?

  • No, I like them but it will cause you problems with the FL bar.

    Votes: 2 2.4%

  • No, I dont like them.

    Votes: 5 6.1%

  • Yes.

    Votes: 75 91.5%
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I have to admit that I like these guys and I wish to subscribe to their newsletter.

Are you a member of JFPO?
Should I join too?
Will the Florida Bar care about membership in such an organisation or are such political things of no importance?
 
I don't understand this thread. What does being Jewish have to do with gun ownership? And what does Florida have to do with this?
 
I know that you do not have to be Jewish to join.

I also SUSPECT that with the recent gun-laws put into place and the quotes by Jeb Bush which were Pro-2A that it probably cannot hurt. I dont think NRA memberships hurt either.
 
I own a shirt that they put out a while back.

http://www.firingpin.com/images/All_in_favor_of_gun_control.gif

It has that on the front.

And

"benefits of gun control
Concentration camps
killing fields
gulags"

Its a good'n. THe only problem I have with it is when im wearing a jacket, it covers up the words and all you can see is Hitler saluting. Ive gotten some bad looks for it but several compliments from several people.
 
How do you sign up for their newsletter? I never heard of this group but remember some group from NYC, the Jewish Defense League that used as their motto "Never Again".
 
I can't imagine the Florida bar giving a hoot. Is there even a question in the application that would require you to reveal such a passive membership? Do you also have to list "Harry and David's Fruit of the Month Club"? :confused:
 
Chose No.

Not that I don't like JPFO- there a good lot. I love their publications and website and they do a lot of dirty work that other groups refuse to do. I will join one day, and give them a donation to boot. That day just hasn't come yet.
 
I'm a member, along with the NRA (not so keen, but it's the 800lb gorilla now), GOA and a few state orgs. :)
 
GOA is the best, and has over 300,000 members. They have a good national presence, and a no-nonsense, no-compromise attitude: exactly what the pro-rights community needs.

JPFO...if anyone can join, why is it called JEWS for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership? Why not EVERYONE for the Preservation...? Pro-Rights groups are about RIGHTS, not about specific demographic groups--and even if organizations don't exclude anyone, they shouldn't have names that favor one type of person over another. All that should be in the name is two things:

1. Something to identify it as a pro-RKBA group
2. Something to denote its regional scope (local, state or national)

That's it.

"Second Amendment Sisters"...another one I don't like, and for the same reason. The title doesn't say "we gun owners need to stick together." It says "we FEMALE gun owners need to stick together." Fine, you go ahead, but don't expect my support. Where's the Second Amendment Brothers organization? I'll join that.

GOA, SAF, CCRKBA, and even the NRA whom I often gripe about don't favor anyone in their names. Pick one of those.
 
Phetro, it is called JEWS as it was organized by Jews to combat the anti-RKBA rubbish that spews from the mouths of some prominent Jews. Sometimes it takes one of the Jewish faith to combat the nonsense of Jewish organization without Leftist Jewish organizations whining and crying about "anti-Semitism."

Membership in JPFO is open to all. I am a founding member and I am an Anglo-Saxon Methodist. JPFO does not "favor" Jews over Methodists or Methodists over Catholics or right handers over left handers.

Second Amendment Sisters is needed to combat the notion that women are to remain weak and helpless. The gun control movement is driven by womanly hand-wringing fear. SAS allows women an alternative.
 
I was aware of WHY they did it, and with the fact that membership is open to all (I even mentioned that above). My point was that even having a title that implies exclusivity is a trait of an organization I wouldn't support, nor recommend supporting. Rights groups should be focusing on commonalities among gun owners, not differences...and those names imply the opposite.

Edit: I should also mention that I actually used to support both groups, too. I still do support them in spirit...
 
I think you're missing the point of the names. They aren't aimed at gun owners, they're aimed at the anti's and, moreso, at the undecided.

So they aren't using the name to describe who they are supporting gun rights for (which is the only way to get exclusivity from them)but rather to make it quite clear who those rights for all are supported by.

It is a societal assumption by anti's and the undecided that the "typical" gun owner is a white, middleing aged, Christian man. That's the nonsense always spouted by the MSM to show why gun owners are marginal.

In order to make it clear to the fence sitters that the reality is different and that there's already room in the tent for those traditionally seen as stereotypically "should be anti-gun"; the creator's of SAS and JPFO throw their organization's names in the face of society's assumptions.

GOA and NRA et al., no matter the reality of their membership, can be dismissed as a bunch of male WASP's and good ol' boys by those who have negative intent or who don't care to look more deeply. That can't be done to SAS and JPFO expressly by design.

I think the importance of blowing holes in the opposition's bigotry campaign far outweighs any slight hint of exclusivity, especially because membership is patently open to all.
 
The J in JPFO is Brilliant. Even the slowest kid in the class can be brought to understand why Jews, of all people, should have such a keen interest in curbing the tendency of a government-gone-bad to kill its citizens.

A co-worker asked me what kind of Jews are these? "The kind that know that an armed people has a chance against fascism." He got it right away.
 
I disagree with the notion that JPFO or SAS should make their name more generic... groups like these have been able to promote RKBA more effectively precisely because of their "niche" (see also Pink Pistols). Newspapers seek them out and print what they have to say because they are novel and new. I think these groups are an important part of showing others that RKBA isn't just for your stereotypical southern, white, male, rural hunter.
 
Hey, I've had unpopular opinions before...I can handle it. They can serve their niches--I have never had a problem with that. I myself prefer an organization that represents ME.
 
Might should investigate who supports and gives financial aid to the gun grabbers in the United States, before you join a jewish organization.
 
Might should investigate who supports and gives financial aid to the gun grabbers in the United States, before you join a jewish organization.
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That is precisely why this organization exists. The Jewish population, I'm told, I have done no research into this myself, tends to vote liberal/Democrat.

This organization exists to point out exactly why voting for a party that would love to take away your guns is the wrong path.

I'm not a member of the JPFO, but I should be. I do buy their merchandise, however, to give them some support. That, and it's good stuff. I highly recommend this video for anybody that owns a semi-automatic rifle.

I'm a WASP, but I have no problem with aligning with groups like the JPFO, Pink Pistols, and Second Amdendment Sisters. I actually wish there was a group devoted to the right to keep and bear arms for black folks.

Here in the USA the WASP is the 800lb gorilla when it comes to voting. When a WASP, or rather large groups of WASPs, put their weight behind minority groups we help solidify our devotion to the principals of gun ownership.

I certainly don't want anybody taking away my guns, so rather than simply state that position it does us much more good when we're willing to stand up and say that, no, you may not take guns from the Jews, or the women, or the homosexuals, or the blacks. In fact, when you sign up for groups like that you're supporting higher gun ownership in those groups that are less likely to own them.

I want every American to be armed, but that isn't a likely goal. It is easier to start with minority groups. I want every woman armed, I went every Jew armed, I want every homosexual armed, and I want every black armed in this country. The WASPs will arm themselves as they see fit; it's acceptable in their social circles to do so.

Let's get the small groups on board entirely, then we'll work on the majority of this country.
 
Jews, IMHO, seem to be incapable of realizing that they need to protect themselves instead of relying on the Government....

I've been trying to figure it out since I woke up one day and realized that I was Jewish and disinclined to assume that I'd be protected.

(It may have helped that I was a rent-a-cop at the time - outside of cities like New York, Jewish LEO's are kind of rare in the US.)

There seems, too, to be some kind of built-in fear of LEOs or the Military for Jews.

JPFO most definitely counters these impressions. It's a very un-Jewish thing to be in the US. But some of us really know what's going on out there....

(Reminds me - gotta send them some money....)

Regards
 
I think this is mostly a trait of the more liberal branches of Judaism, i.e. Reform, Conservative, Reconstructionist.

Whereas I still remember the Orthodox synagogue in New Jersey that my cousins go to, where the synagogue president got up near the end of prayers and reminded the congregation about the upcoming NRA Basic Pistol course :D

Orthodox Jews are fundamentally comfortable with the theory behind self-defense. Many of them simply are not used to guns, but that can be corrected.
 
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