markr6754
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I finally shot some loads with the Universal I scored at Gander Outdoors.
Hodgdon Reloading lists only 1 load for 147gr, Hornady 147gr XTP. I only had 147 gr Berry’s CPRN, so I used that. The spread was 3.0gr to 3.3 gr. Trying to extrapolate data between 147 gr Copper Plated RN vs 147 gr XTPs in the Lee Book 2nd ed. for same powders it seemed that the XTP used the same, or 0.2 grain higher charge. But the C.O.L. for the CPRN is 1.160” vs 1.100” for XTPs.
I made up 4 loads at 3.0gr, 3.1gr, 3.2gr., and max 3.3gr feeling that I may be too close for comfort at the highest charge. All rounds were loaded to 1.150” C.O.L.
Shooting indoors, no chrono, 6 handguns...S&W Shield 2.0, Taurus G2C, Kimber Micro 9, Beretta 92FS, Bersa Thunder 9, and something called a Glock - unsure of model, looks like a Kahr CM9.
As luck would have it...my son pulled the box with 3.2gr and 3.3gr. We loaded 3 rounds of 3.2 into magazines for all 6 pistols.
Glock, S&W Shield, and Beretta wouldn’t cycle. No ejection or a stovepipe on extraction. The Kimber and Taurus cycled just fine, and the Bersa cycled through all 3 rounds, but didn’t lock back on empty mag.
Next we ran the same test with 3.3gr loads. All 6 pistols functioned flawlessly...but this didn’t feel in anyway like max loads. Not even from the short barreled Kimber Micro 9.
Proceeding to the 3.0gr and 3.1gr loads, we tried 1 round from each of the pistols, saving the majority for the Kimber and Bersa.
The only pistol that ran the 3.0gr loads was my Kimber M9. Then, the Kimber and the Bersa Thunder 9 ran the 3.1gr loads, but the Bersa didn’t lock back on empty.
So, does anyone have experience with 147gr Berry’s CPRN and Universal? Do you agree with the 3.3gr max listed by Hodgdon? What C.O.L. are you comfortable using? I’m pretty sure that 1.150” is the longest I’ve ever loaded 9mm.
Hodgdon Reloading lists only 1 load for 147gr, Hornady 147gr XTP. I only had 147 gr Berry’s CPRN, so I used that. The spread was 3.0gr to 3.3 gr. Trying to extrapolate data between 147 gr Copper Plated RN vs 147 gr XTPs in the Lee Book 2nd ed. for same powders it seemed that the XTP used the same, or 0.2 grain higher charge. But the C.O.L. for the CPRN is 1.160” vs 1.100” for XTPs.
I made up 4 loads at 3.0gr, 3.1gr, 3.2gr., and max 3.3gr feeling that I may be too close for comfort at the highest charge. All rounds were loaded to 1.150” C.O.L.
Shooting indoors, no chrono, 6 handguns...S&W Shield 2.0, Taurus G2C, Kimber Micro 9, Beretta 92FS, Bersa Thunder 9, and something called a Glock - unsure of model, looks like a Kahr CM9.
As luck would have it...my son pulled the box with 3.2gr and 3.3gr. We loaded 3 rounds of 3.2 into magazines for all 6 pistols.
Glock, S&W Shield, and Beretta wouldn’t cycle. No ejection or a stovepipe on extraction. The Kimber and Taurus cycled just fine, and the Bersa cycled through all 3 rounds, but didn’t lock back on empty mag.
Next we ran the same test with 3.3gr loads. All 6 pistols functioned flawlessly...but this didn’t feel in anyway like max loads. Not even from the short barreled Kimber Micro 9.
Proceeding to the 3.0gr and 3.1gr loads, we tried 1 round from each of the pistols, saving the majority for the Kimber and Bersa.
The only pistol that ran the 3.0gr loads was my Kimber M9. Then, the Kimber and the Bersa Thunder 9 ran the 3.1gr loads, but the Bersa didn’t lock back on empty.
So, does anyone have experience with 147gr Berry’s CPRN and Universal? Do you agree with the 3.3gr max listed by Hodgdon? What C.O.L. are you comfortable using? I’m pretty sure that 1.150” is the longest I’ve ever loaded 9mm.
