Gtscotty
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Hello THR,
I've been a member of the forum for quite a while, but this is my first foray into the Handloading and Reloading section. I have been reloading 30-06 for almost a year, but just started loading up 270 WSM yesterday (for a tikka t3 24in barrel). All of the cases i've used have been previously unfired. I first started out following the speer reloading manual, with a 130 gr SPBT, cci200 primers, and working up from 62gr to 66gr of RL19. These loads shot ok (~1.5", 3 shots) but seemed to be especially dirty, and I was seeing marks on the cases where gasses had blown back nearly halfway down the outside of the case wall. Also, I got the following velocity numbers:
62gr - 2992 fps
63gr - 2943 fps
64gr - 2994 fps
65gr - 3051 fps
66gr - 3068 fps
These numbers were all well below the published velocities, and combined with the blowback I thought perhaps i was not getting good ignition from the cci 200 primers. I went back home last night and decided to cautiously follow the data in my Lymans 49th for the 130 gr swift Scirocco because I felt I needed to use magnum primers and this data uses WLRM ( know switching bullets in loading data is bad ju ju...). Fast forward to today, and I had great results at the range (<1", 3 shots) , especially in my bottom load of 64gr and top load of 67 gr. My velocity numbers were more in line with published standards, with the top load being perhaps 50 fps high:
64gr - 3077 fps
65gr - 3158 fps
66gr - 3228 fps
67gr - 3303 fps
There was no bolt sticking, and the primers did not look terribly flat. After I got home however, I got paranoid and started measuring the case webs. The unfired case webs measure .547"-.548", my cases loaded with 67grs measure .554, and my cases loaded with 64grs measure .553. Incidentally, all of my cases fired with the weaker cci 200 primers measure .553 - .554...... The primers fired with my top load of 67gr exhibit the slightest bit of flow around the firing pin, while it cannot really be seen with the naked eye, when I run my fingernail over it, it catches the slightest bit. My initial thought was to back off to 66.5 gr and see how that goes, but then I got kind of paranoid. I guess my question to the collective THR is, is this kind of web expansion and slight primer flattening attributable to the high pressure nature of this round, or have I found a bad primer/powder/bullet combination that should be avoided?
Sorry about the wall of text. I'll post some pics below, any thoughts or tips would be very much appreciated
I've been a member of the forum for quite a while, but this is my first foray into the Handloading and Reloading section. I have been reloading 30-06 for almost a year, but just started loading up 270 WSM yesterday (for a tikka t3 24in barrel). All of the cases i've used have been previously unfired. I first started out following the speer reloading manual, with a 130 gr SPBT, cci200 primers, and working up from 62gr to 66gr of RL19. These loads shot ok (~1.5", 3 shots) but seemed to be especially dirty, and I was seeing marks on the cases where gasses had blown back nearly halfway down the outside of the case wall. Also, I got the following velocity numbers:
62gr - 2992 fps
63gr - 2943 fps
64gr - 2994 fps
65gr - 3051 fps
66gr - 3068 fps
These numbers were all well below the published velocities, and combined with the blowback I thought perhaps i was not getting good ignition from the cci 200 primers. I went back home last night and decided to cautiously follow the data in my Lymans 49th for the 130 gr swift Scirocco because I felt I needed to use magnum primers and this data uses WLRM ( know switching bullets in loading data is bad ju ju...). Fast forward to today, and I had great results at the range (<1", 3 shots) , especially in my bottom load of 64gr and top load of 67 gr. My velocity numbers were more in line with published standards, with the top load being perhaps 50 fps high:
64gr - 3077 fps
65gr - 3158 fps
66gr - 3228 fps
67gr - 3303 fps
There was no bolt sticking, and the primers did not look terribly flat. After I got home however, I got paranoid and started measuring the case webs. The unfired case webs measure .547"-.548", my cases loaded with 67grs measure .554, and my cases loaded with 64grs measure .553. Incidentally, all of my cases fired with the weaker cci 200 primers measure .553 - .554...... The primers fired with my top load of 67gr exhibit the slightest bit of flow around the firing pin, while it cannot really be seen with the naked eye, when I run my fingernail over it, it catches the slightest bit. My initial thought was to back off to 66.5 gr and see how that goes, but then I got kind of paranoid. I guess my question to the collective THR is, is this kind of web expansion and slight primer flattening attributable to the high pressure nature of this round, or have I found a bad primer/powder/bullet combination that should be avoided?
Sorry about the wall of text. I'll post some pics below, any thoughts or tips would be very much appreciated