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  1. skidooman603

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    Remington 1st model Vest Pocket Derringer..Serial #557 Year 1865

    Honored to have it in my possesion...

    Yes I know it's not a revolver but wanted ya'll to see this.
     
  2. Salmoneye

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    Slick...
     
  3. Dain Bramage

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    Not a revolver.
     
  4. Jim K

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    Not only not a revolver but not all that rare as they made some 20,000 of them over 23 years (1865-1888). That one has the tip of the hammer spur broken off. The gun is a Flobert type, using the hammer as a breechblock, so modern ammo is out of the question.

    Jim
     
  5. skidooman603

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    Ah yea..I pointed out it wasn't a revolver and I would call 18000 produced quite rare..but hey thanks for playin. Ya all come back now
     
  6. bluethunder1962

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    so cool. have you fired it?
     
  7. oldfool

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    well, in that size non-revolver I would pick my Hi-Std DA 22 derringer for me
    (shucks, everybody needs a little 'something', now and then, just because)
    but yours is still about 100X way more cool than mine, and probably at least as practical/useful

    nice pics !
     
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    Thank You for the kind words...From a function stand point, as mentioned earlier it requires black powder .22 so I will maybe never fire it. Cool factor is up there. 130 some years old and God knows how many survive...
     
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    Shoot CCI .22 Short CB caps in it.

    That won't hurt a thing if it don't break cocking it!

    BTW: Very nice!!
    Rare or not, it is probably a $1,500+ gun in that nice a shape!

    rc
     
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    Can we say this is considered to be the "three screw model " ? lol Looks like it's been cared for, for a long time..nice gun.
     
  11. skidooman603

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    Ha Ha...Thanks RC. That's about what the owner figures as he has seen them in worse shape go for more. He is getting out of guns and is a long time friend. He said keep it or sell it and we will go on a fishing trip. I'm thinking I may sell it. The old boy doesn't have alot of fishing trips left in him...:)
     
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    ^^^^^^
    doesn't have a lot of fishing trips left in him

    hey, me neither..
    only thing better in life than great-grandkids and a good wife is a good shooting buddy
    only thing in life worth more than a good shooting buddy is a good fishing buddy

    go fishing.. and bring a 22 for some fun if it's a slow fishing day ;)

    PS
    like it's been said.. "god does not deduct from a man's allotted lifespan, time spent..."
     
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    Yea this is a man who is a WW2 Vet, taught me to reload and about shooting rifle competitions, how to fix about anything, and that's just for starters. He is one of the few left of a great generation. I've decided GunBroker and a fishing trip...That will help pay for a walleye week. Thats how we met almost 30 years ago. We had a group of 10 or 12 of us go to Canada. Somehow we ended up in the same boat a couple days and guys 40 years apart became life long hunting and shooting buds.
     
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    There's not all that many good excuses for selling off a gun. But I'd say this is pretty close to the top of the short list.

    No chance you can do the trip AND keep the little gun?
     
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    Sure COULD do that but..this gent had a few things that he bestowed upon me. I have a few of his guns that have sentiment above the level of the pistol. Less value but more sentiment. I am going to need a 3rd safe soon..Very few homes, cars, or guns I wouldn't sell. His match and hunting pieces are the ones near and dear to him and in turn me. Looks like Canada here we come..;)
     
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    As RC mentioned, CB caps are pretty safe. Also, the Aguila Colibri powderless shells.
     
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    The Old Fuff sadly wonders why it is when some starts a thread and posts a picture of an antique that is well over a century old a chorus goes up, “ARE YOU GOING TO SHOOT IT? SHOOT IT!! SHOOT IT!

    This seems like an exercise in extreme stupidity, especially if the piece is exceptionally valuable.

    Simply cocking and releasing the hammer may cause a spring to crack, or another part may break. Has anyone considered where parts to repair a rare, over-a-century-old gun might be found? Is the questionable thrill of shooting it worth the risk – no matter how small- of damaging or destroying a piece of American firearms history? Do you think that shooting this little 19th century pocket piece will produce a target worth bragging about? Does anyone who advocates shooting these antiques feel that they have any responsibility to compensate the owner if something goes wrong?

    Of course not. :mad:

    The Old Fuff knows better because he has had, on too many occasions, had the regrettable task of examining the results when someone did something stupid, and then brought him the results and asks, “Can you fix it?” The answer usually is, “No,” or “Maybe – but it is going to be very expensive.”

    I am sure this little rant is going to cause some reaction, but rest assured that the Old Fuff is in a feisty mood and ready to take on all comers… :cuss: :fire: :banghead:
     
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    Moved to correct forum
     
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    I agree with Old Fuff. You can always buy a Pedersoli Remington Rider derringer to shoot, if you'd like to see what it's like to shoot the one you have.
    Yeah, the Pedersoli takes percussion caps and .177 lead round balls, but the mechanics of shooting it are otherwise the same. And, it's not a valuable antique.
     
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    Neat gun.

    Would be nice to see a link to the gunbroker site so that we could keep an eye on it, rather than scouring the 'net and newspapers to get "the rest of the story". Then, possibly a couple of photos of the trip?

    I'm sure THAT wouldn't be of a revolver either but it sure would make for a great thread! :cool:
     
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    I think it is pretty cool. Have you had it valued?
     
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    To some of us, yes. What's the worst case if it breaks the spring? It becomes a wall hanger. What is it if you don't shoot it? A wall hanger.

    No, but there's just something intrinsically cool about putting them back into service more than 100 years later, even if very limited.

    I have a S&W model 1 second issue made in 1868 in pretty decent condition, and you're darn tootin' I put some CB caps downrange with it. That put a big 'ol smile on my face.

    If using ammo that the gun can handle from a pressure standpoint, I see absolutely no reason not to (unless it's a century+ old gun that is still unfired).

    But to each his own.
     
  23. Old Fuff

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    I think this statement illustrates the point I was trying to make better then any words I might post. Really? Apparently the questionable thrill of shooting it is worth the risk – no matter how small- of damaging or destroying a piece of American firearms history. Not only that but it's even "cool" in the eyes of some folks.

    If something breaks so what? You can always make what has lasted in functional condition for over a century into a wall hanger.

    Does anyone besides the Old Fuff see the difference between making a gun that is already beyond hope into a wall hanger, vs. taking a functional, intact piece and turning it into one?

    Of course one has the right to do whatever they want with what they own, even if they may deny future generations an opportunity to enjoy what they now have.

    But I hope others are "less cool," and more wise - and use better judgment. :banghead:
     
  24. SimplyChad

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    Just promise one thing. If its sold let it be on here to someone who has shown through post and time that they will respect and cherish its. Not just for its cash value but for what its is in firearms history. If I had the cash it would go into a black walnut case under glass next to my Dads prized peace maker.
     
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    Wow I should have read more of the post. I should have said someone like FUFF ^^^
     
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