hi, Im from the uk, Im 14, and I can fire an SA80 varient legaly

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better a hole in the foot than a discharge into the sky, (or your head) you can be put in prison for that in iraq..... well... you could have been a while back anyway. and yes I do need some exersize..
 
ooh! piece of advice, never use hollow tipped ammo and clean your gun while its loaded.
 
Kid, you need to have a long talk with your trainer. When resting a rifle on the ground, it had better be butt down. Muzzle down is a big time no no, unless you happen to be in a chopper. Even a small amount of foreign matter in a barrel equals a big kaboom.
 
I spose your right, but the L98 isent realy long anough to touch the ground unless you lean it against your leg
 
sure I have, I've field stripped an ww1 enfield rifle and fired an air rifle, I havent done dry training with any other rifles yet because I havent taken the tests I need to get 1st class... I'm still 2nd
 
It's resting on the ground. How can it not be long enough? Are the laws of physics somehow different in the UK?

Don't clean your gun while it's loaded? Are you kidding? You're comment is akin to "advising" an Olympic class swimmer to remember not to breathe underwater. Of course you don't clean a loaded gun. You also don't work a hammer with your feet. :rolleyes:
 
oh.. I never said it had to touch the ground, just face it. I'm asuming that you assumed I ment hammer it in a few inches
 
Merely pointing out that you probably don't need to "advise" life long shooters with the bit about "don't clean a loaded gun." It falls under the Super Obvious category.

Also, what is your aversion to hollow point ammo? It's obviously the most humane way to harvest game. Allows the animal to be taken quickly and with little suffering.

In a self defense scenario, hollow points are much more effective than ball ammunition, and also much more likely to expend their energy in their target. This has the added benefit of not overpenetrating and injuring or killing innocents that happen to be behind your adversary. Why do you think every police department anywhere utilizes hollow points?

sure I have, I've field stripped an ww1 enfield
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Wow, you succesfully pulled a bolt and dropped a magazine all by yourself? Do Brits get some kind of medal for that?
 
Hey, Thumper -- how about a little warmer welcome. The guy had to trek over the Atlantic to get here, the least we can do is be nice.
 
Sorry, Mal...

mr. uk...back to your original post...

In an uncertain era, (like the rest of recorded history) filled with strife, why wouldn't you consider it prudent to teach your people skill at arms?

You do realize that, as recently as my Grandfather's prime, Britain found itself sadly incapable of dealing with a threatened Nazi invasion? You've heard the stories, I'm sure, of farmers arming themselves with pitchforks? That Enfield you took apart (kinda)...was it part of Lend-Lease?

Somehow, your society has convinced itself that it is immune from history. That you will never yourself be called upon to defend your motherland from a sudden threat.

Britain has effectively disarmed herself, to the delight of armed criminals. Have you looked at your rising crime rates recently? Guess what happens when only the criminals have guns?

Oh...and sorry for the excessive sarcasm. Welcome, really.
 
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Also, what is your aversion to hollow point ammo? It's obviously the most humane way to harvest game. Allows the animal to be taken quickly and with little suffering.
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Say what? That statement isn't true unless you're referring to small game. And even then HP's aren't always the besy way to go. Most large game requires a good soft point to harvest humanely. Hollowpoints are generally thought to no offer sufficient penetration to reliably reach vital organs. Or is that just my misperception from reading Peter Hathaway Capstick?
 
sure I have, I've field stripped an ww1 enfield rifle and fired an air rifle, I havent done dry training with any other rifles yet because I havent taken the tests I need to get 1st class... I'm still 2nd
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Are you in Scouts? I know around here the Cub Scouts are limited to air guns while the Boy Scouts can shoot .22s. Never heard of it being rank related though.

Welcome BTW.

Greg
 
Say what? That statement isn't true unless you're referring to small game.
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Up to deer sized game, I prefer the Barnes X bullet in my reloads. BTW, the vast majority of game animals taken in the U.S. are deer sized and under. I use solids for hogs only, unless I ever get to hunt bear again. Never had the chance to hunt moose.

Popular hunting hollow points include the Barnes X mentioned, Federal's Ballistic Tip and Ballistic Silvertip (it's a plastic insert), and Winchester's Super X.

I agree that for large dangerous game, you use solids, but elephants, water buffalo, and lions are scarce in my neck of the woods.
 
Thumper: I never mentioned solids. I said "softpoints." There is a difference.
I'm pretty out of the loop in regards to hunting technology, and I was unaware of serious hunting bullets in a HP configuration.
 
when I made the comment I made about cleaning a rifle loaded with hollow point ammo, I wasent telling you not to clean a loaded rifle, of course you know that! its just that I heard that some idiot cleaned an SKS loaded with hollow points and he shot himself, the round went through two houses.


also. the criminals here used to be mildly honorable, they wouldent use pistols or rifles against the police because they dident use them. and then the foriegners came over and spoiled it all. did I mention that an ak costs £60? i think thats around 120 dollars.

and Im in the air training core or "air cadets" not the scouts
 
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That's ok. A little Capstick can make anyone an expert.
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Uhhh, ok. I never said I was an expert. I simply said I was unaware of serious hunting bullets made in a HP configuration. I hardly think that counts as arrogance or a false claim to being an "expert." And I hardly think that it requires an expert to say "A hunting bullet must be able to reliably penetrate to the vital area of the game being shot." I was simply unaware that any HP's fit that requirement.
Are you having a bad day Thump? You seem to be in a rather poor mood.
 
I dont know, I just heard that poeple from other countries started it, I dont even know how true that is.. and this website cant remember that I'm logged in, I spent the last 15 mins trying to log myself back in
 
last year when the police asked for poeple to hand in thier unregistered weapons, they got all sorts of stuff, pistols, sniper rifles, carbines, assault rifles, a few RPG7s and even wheeled artillary.

my dad still hasent handed in his air rifle or air pistol, but whats the point?
 
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