waterhouse
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I thought it was a C.S. Lewis reference, but I was just guessing from the wardrobe comment.
Hidden doors and unseen spaces...
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IllHunter
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Foiled by foil?
Would foil faced insulation between the studs interfere with the metal detectors?
I concieved of a hidey hole behind the bathroom towel, behind the wallpapered balsa plank covering the loaded six shooter pointed away from the towels, ready to grab after asking the intruder to "go" or after retreating to the only room with a body size ceramic covered cast iron hiding place . Having the gun supported by dowel in barrel would keep bugs from nesting.Perhaps heavy lube would do the same for the wheel gap etc. Any ideas for improving, perhaps a foil lining to the balsa?
Would foil faced insulation between the studs interfere with the metal detectors?
I concieved of a hidey hole behind the bathroom towel, behind the wallpapered balsa plank covering the loaded six shooter pointed away from the towels, ready to grab after asking the intruder to "go" or after retreating to the only room with a body size ceramic covered cast iron hiding place . Having the gun supported by dowel in barrel would keep bugs from nesting.Perhaps heavy lube would do the same for the wheel gap etc. Any ideas for improving, perhaps a foil lining to the balsa?
Morglan
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Assuming Tallpine was indeed referring to The Chronicles of Narnia, in the first book (The Magician's Nephew) explains the origin of the magical wardrobe that appears in the second book (The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe).
I called it obscure because not a whole lot of people have read (or heard of) the other six books in the Chronicles, and you would have had to have read the first one to know the wardrobe was built from wood from an apple tree.
Great books--I still enjoy them, and my 6 year old does as well.
Titan6
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''TO THE BAT CAVE!''
Had to. the tinfoil comment threw me over the top.
Had to. the tinfoil comment threw me over the top.
glassman
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Kitchen Counter
My uncle has a very well concealed hidden panel in his kitchen. He has a bank of floor cabinets with a formica countertop seperating the kitchen from the den. There are stools in front of the counter and this is where he sits for meals. The facia of the cabinet (where his knees would touch when sitting) swings up revealing a peg board backing and is stocked with his collection. It is seamless and totally hidden.
My uncle has a very well concealed hidden panel in his kitchen. He has a bank of floor cabinets with a formica countertop seperating the kitchen from the den. There are stools in front of the counter and this is where he sits for meals. The facia of the cabinet (where his knees would touch when sitting) swings up revealing a peg board backing and is stocked with his collection. It is seamless and totally hidden.
IllHunter said:
You'd have to line all of the outside room walls with foil for it to work. Otherwise the detector would pick up the foil area just as readily as metal from your valuables. You could paint the walls of the entire outside room with metallic paint and the detector would go off no matter where it was pointed. But it would also turn your outside room into a Faraday Cage. That might or might not be a bonus for you.
More vexing would be the fact that most (if not all) metal detectors can be tuned. If I were the thief, and I encountered a lined room, I'd just re-tune and filter out the foil or metal layer of paint and get to work.
Glockfan.45
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If the upstairs is unfinished this should be easy. Pic an interior wall like the back of a closet and cut a hole through the ceiling in the back of said closet. Then build a new wall in the back of the closet covering the hole in the ceiling, and creating a hollow space. You can the cover the floor panel upstairs in carpet. If you could so so on a wall next to your hot water heater or other such items that would be even better. The reason being that one would expect a metal detector to go off in that area.
Heating vents are good too. I use to keep large sums of cash on hand, and rented a apartment in a not so good area. I would put the cash in a ziplock bag with a string tied to it. Then I would just drop the bag down the heat vent and duct tape the string to the underside of the pipe where it could not seen. When I was a kid we lived in an old house that had a small attic space with access hidden behind the wood paneling in my bedroom. I stayed in that room for 15 years before I ever found that access panel. The space ran the whole length of the upstairs, and was almost tall enough to stand in. Needless to say I hid all the things a teen typically hides from their parents in that space from then on.
To this day I don't think my parents know about that space as I never told them about it. I may still have crap hidden int there come to think about it
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Heating vents are good too. I use to keep large sums of cash on hand, and rented a apartment in a not so good area. I would put the cash in a ziplock bag with a string tied to it. Then I would just drop the bag down the heat vent and duct tape the string to the underside of the pipe where it could not seen. When I was a kid we lived in an old house that had a small attic space with access hidden behind the wood paneling in my bedroom. I stayed in that room for 15 years before I ever found that access panel. The space ran the whole length of the upstairs, and was almost tall enough to stand in. Needless to say I hid all the things a teen typically hides from their parents in that space from then on.
To this day I don't think my parents know about that space as I never told them about it. I may still have crap hidden int there come to think about it
.JamisJockey
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http://www.hiddendoors.com/home.asp
I saw thier products once at a homeshow in Utah. The wife and I are expecting to build a McMansion next year, I fully intend on using one.
I saw thier products once at a homeshow in Utah. The wife and I are expecting to build a McMansion next year, I fully intend on using one.
The bookcase or "built in" seems to be my best bet for the door. Working off of the existing closets that I won't need looks like the best place to start.
Using and creating dead-spaces will be easy, creating passages will be a fun challenge, but something that I think will occur to me as I spend more time in the house.
loose cannon
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my only issue with those diy vaultdoors is that id want a way to get out of your "safe room" if the bgs got the drop on u and locked you and yours in the room and perhaps set your house on fire to eliminate witnesses
Ten years ago we bought a house that needed some "updating".
One day as I was busy painting one of the rooms, my wife was busy pulling up the old carpet in the hall, which, at one end had a closet that wasn't but about a foot deep, just right for storing linens and such. The carpet had been installed right on into the floor area of the closet.
When she got to the closet and was trying to pull up that carpet, she came and got me because when she'd pull, the back portion of the wall would slide up. ???
After checking, I removed the shelves and some previous owner had created a false wall with the lower half, (about four feet worth), able to slide up behind the upper half, all fitted into a grooved piece of trim that was unnoticeable when the shelves were in place.
Behind that sliding portion of wall was a nice 4'x6' space that could have held all sorts of interesting things at some point. Made a great hiding place.
One day as I was busy painting one of the rooms, my wife was busy pulling up the old carpet in the hall, which, at one end had a closet that wasn't but about a foot deep, just right for storing linens and such. The carpet had been installed right on into the floor area of the closet.
When she got to the closet and was trying to pull up that carpet, she came and got me because when she'd pull, the back portion of the wall would slide up. ???
After checking, I removed the shelves and some previous owner had created a false wall with the lower half, (about four feet worth), able to slide up behind the upper half, all fitted into a grooved piece of trim that was unnoticeable when the shelves were in place.
Behind that sliding portion of wall was a nice 4'x6' space that could have held all sorts of interesting things at some point. Made a great hiding place.
ec-10
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Rent the movie "The Score" with Robert Deniro and Edward Norton. Keep an eye out for Deniro's bathroom (in two scenes).
It occurs to me that most interior doors are largely hollow. Not the sort of place you'd normally look for a gun, and the wood is soft enough that you can literally just punch through it. Put it near enough to the doorknob or hinges, and there's already a reason for the metal detector to go off.
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