High Court Rules Gov'ts Can Seize Property

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Hmm. Gee, if anyone tries to seize my property, they can get it. But it's gonna cost them, scorched Earth Policy all the way. Till motor oil and salt into the ground, and dump every other nasty chemical I can find. Couple weeks after they own my land, call the EPA and every environmentalist group in this hemisphere.
 
I agree with you Sindawe, I was just trying to make the point that we already have a law on the books that is supposed to protect us from land grabs and they are ignoring it. We also already have laws on the books that protect us from gun grabs, illegal searches and seizures, infringement on free speech and press and undue process of law and they have ignored all of those also. Passing another law outlawing eminent domain won't do any good if it will be ignored as well.

What do the people do when the laws of the land are ignored by the government to the detriment of the people?
 
MSNBC has a "live vote" running on this incredible ruling, asking "Is this fair?". So far it's 97% NO, 3% YES. It's looking like the people are finally getting tired of this crap.
This is a very serious ruling, the worst I've seen from them in many years.
 
lunaslide: Ahhh...gotcha.

Well, I think some fine folks in years past had some valid ideas...
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
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Said before and I'll say it again. Joe and Martha Sixpack have a slice of the American dream even though it may be a single-wide next to an interstate right of way. Joe and Martha are happy because the single-wide is their single-wide. They willingly pay taxes because it is their single-wide. Joe and Martha may not host dinner parties because high heels don't do well in gravel driveways, but they can have Lois and Larry Lugnuts for for brats and beers in their single-side.

The idea of unaccountable black robed judges have now said it is acceptable for a tofu loving, Gucci loafered developer to get his buds in the local government to "take" Joe and Martha's single-wide is reprehensible to even the most marginal American. They may not be able to cite the 5th amendment but they do understand fairness. . . . . . and what the judges have delivered ain't fair.

Me thinks SCOTUS has just done something highly unsanitary to its messkit. This one ain't settled. :fire:
 
Want to talk impeachment? It's time to impeach Stevens, Kennedy, Souter, Ginsburg, and Breyer.
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+1 again.

I wonder if any of the people immediately impacted have the intestinal fortitude of Martin Olds?
 
Waitone...exactly..........

This issue is so simple, so cut-and-dried, that anyone and everyone will get it.

That's why I think this issue is much more powerful than just about any other issue that folks have been wrangling over recently.

It doesn't matter how much people know about history or political theory or how much they have read the Federalist Papers or the US vs Miller decision or anything like that.

Concepts like "interstate commerce clause" which cause the eyes of most ordinary people to glaze over don't apply here.

What does apply is the gut-level, instinctual reaction that tells everyone, no matter what their religious beliefs, political stances, values systems, sex, race, age, or educational level, that having your house confiscated by the government and given to some corporation to be destroyed and replaced with a new strip mall is wrong, immoral, and completely unacceptable.

The complete and utter simplicity of this outrageous situation is what will make this one so powerful.

There is nothing to understand. There is no elightenment of any kind required. There is nothing "to get."

The math really is as simple as

1) Government takes away your house, regardless of whether you pay taxes or not or any other consideration.

2) Government gives your house to some corporation so they can bulldoze it and replace it with a private business.

This is one of those "firestorm" issues.

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Those voting for this ruling should be asked to retire. They would certainly be out of the running for Chief Justice. If there ever was a case for incompetence, this would be it. All I can do is ask my congresscritters to do something about it.

I am no lawyer and even I can easily reason through this case. Deferring to State and local government on property rights is nonsense. It is an open invitation to corruption, which this case appears to be, and against which no one now has any appeal beyond State levels.

I will have to read the ruling and dissents carefully. This should be fascinating.

Where does it leave us when we take no pride in our Supreme Court or any comfort or confidence in how they might rule? Yikes!
 
I thought I'd wait till i talked to some people in real life before I made my gut instinct comment:

This may be the biggest decision in our lifetimes. And you're right, it's a LONG ways from over...
 
Thats it ... our government has officially crossed Claire Wolfe's line.


sorry ... I know such talk is verboten here on The High Road but thats just where we are now ... America is gone.

:banghead: :fire: :cuss: :(
 
Wow, I just read every post on this threads and guess what I found... Unanimous agreement that SCOTUS has done nasty things to the pooch. We are ALL agreed.

If your read the stories on this, one of the people who the city fathers plan to evict has had the house in her family for A CENTURY OR MORE.

Disgraceful, disgusting, and if I wore a black robe, I would absolutely start looking over my shoulder. The American People will put up with the BS issues of Gay Marriage, School Prayer, and the rest of the stupid agenda we bog our courts with. (BTW, I don't mean to offend anyone, but these are minority issues)

When Joe Sixpack (of which I am one, proud to say) sees that his HOME CAN BE TAKEN for tax advantages for the fat cat city fathers he elected, he is going to be (fill in the blank). Hopefully the city fathers will look like :what: 30 minutes after Joe gets the news.

Don't ask for whom the bell tolls ...
 
Well, it looks like the private citizen took another blow to the head. It really is a shame to see the direction our country has taken. If the government (local, state, or fed.) wants your land they will get it one way or another. At least they had to resort to some pretty underhanded tactics in the past.
 
I popped over to DemocraticUnderground, and horror of horrors, they all agree as well. It looks like we have an issues that nearly all Americans can agree on. The Government has zero right to sieze anyone's property, and give it to a corporation for the "public good."

/me needs a new SHTF gun.
 
Lets be clear, this isn't the "government" in general, this is our out-of-control judicial branch.

Now, how do we get the impeachment ball rolling? And can we get them out before the end of Bush's term, in case (heaven forbid) Hillary wins and makes it 1000% worse.
 
I feel ill... :barf:

This is even more a clear infringment against the Constitution. Animals now have more rights for land property then we do. :eek: Try seizing a wetland...
 
Rest assured, people will defend their homes from tyranny.

And quite frankly, it's about time some blood be spilled in the name of liberty. It's long overdo.

Time to read Enemies Foreign and Domestic again. I need to brush up.
 
And quite frankly, it's about time some blood be spilled in the name of liberty. It's long overdo.
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Molon, the whacko s will first be marginalized by the press -- unless they see some self interest in doing the opposite. Remember, they usually don't care who wins, as long as there is a bloody fight to report.
 
This a major opportunity. A liberal just called Rush and when asked about this issue he was dead against it. Most people have a gutt feel that this is just plain wrong, and when we all agree with the "good" to people at DU then the pipes are primed.

Time for action and the person that leads the pack will win major political hay. We could ammend the constitution to "fix" the problem. The document is overdue to some house cleaning to put a stop to the black robes.
 
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