High desert, lava elk.

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This hunt was primarily for my daughters doe tag. First thing in the morning we got on a herd of mule deer. We snuck up to 383 yards and they seemed calm. I asked my daughter if she was okay and she decided we needed to get a bit closer. Apparently these were 383 yard deer because when we took one more step they bolted and departed the country. We were unable to to relocate the herd, so we decided to move to a different area.

I have a cow elk tag in the area but hadn’t seen any elk at all this year. As an after thought I threw my rifle into the truck just in case. The area we went to is an ancient volcanic lava seam that forms a “dragons spine” out of the surrounding plains. At the base of the north side of the formation is a natural spring that provides year round water. Being a dry unit you can always find critters in these hills due to the water.

We started along the base of the “dragons spine” and slowly worked our way into the wind carefully glassing each and every bowl picking apart the thick juniper and cactus pockets, looking for deer. We’d gone about 6 miles and had stopped once again to glass. I was picking apart the junipers with my binos and saw some tawny hides amongst the trees. “Hey I see them” I said, my daughter looked over at me and said “deer?”. Nope “elk!” I replied. They were about a mile away and I asked my daughter if she would mind if I tried for a cow? She was happy to give it a shot.

We drove to within a half mile or so and parked the truck off the road. The elk had us pegged and it was completely open between us and them. I knew if I started walking towards them they’d instantly be gone. So we set up on a sand bag I had in the truck and glassed the hill side it looked like they were going to pass on the trail they were on at the closest point of about 500 yards.

It didn’t take long for the herd of about 30 cows and young bulls to start filtering across the hillside. I settled into my scope and my daughter started glassing them and ranging them.

“Hey dad that cow in the back has a broken leg.” Sure enough the trailing cow was heavily laboring on a broken front leg. Until that moment I was thinking about not shooting as they were a bit on the far side for my liking. I watched the cow slowly taking up the rear of the herd. She stopped with her front half exposed from a large juniper tree that hid her hind quarters. My daughter whispered “572” I glanced down at my drop chart that’s taped to the stock of my 22” Steyr scout in .308. I dialed for 600 yards at 3.5 Mils. I’ve spent a lot of time behind this rifle and shoot out to 800 yards with regularity. The rifle is a true half MOA shooter and the little Night Force 2.5x10 has proven a dead reliable optic. I’d killed a spike bull with this exact same set up at 524 yards earlier this year and had ultimate confidence that the 165 grain accubond was up to the job at this range on an elk.

There was just a hint of wind blowing straight up to the cow from our position. I was dead steady from a prone position on a heavy sand bag. The crosshairs were settled into the cow just behind her shoulder about half way up. “572” my girl confirmed. I took up the first stage on the trigger and started to exhale. The trigger broke clean, at the shot I saw the cow jerk, I saw a puff of dust fly off the cows chest and she squatted down and immediately turned and it looked to me that she fell out of sight behind a rocky outcropping.

The shot was still rumbling and echoing across the lava fields, my daughter said, “I didn’t hear the thwack”, neither did I. Did you miss she asked? “I’m 99% sure she’s hit and hit good” I replied. My daughter also confirmed that she reacted like she’d been hit.

I quickly chambered a round and flipped the safety on. The elk had been 572 yards away and it was all steeply up hill on jumbled, loose lava rock. I left my pack, and started up that 40 to 50 degree incline at as fast a pace as I could. If the cow was wounded I wanted to find her before she went over the top which would make our pack out extremely difficult. I was maintaining a quick pace jogging from rock to rock all the while looking up to see if the cow was climbing out of the bowl where we’d last seen her. About half way up I saw some tawny elk hides cruising up and out of the bowl in between the trees and rocks. I increased my effort up to shelf where she’d been standing for the shot. I looked back and my daughter was right behind me, we were both breathing heavily. We stopped and looked around we didn’t see an elk.

We both started glassing the hill side that forms the bowl where the elk had departed. There were no elk, a bit of doubt started to creep in. We stood for a bit catching our breath and I said let’s go to where she was and look for blood. We climbed up onto the shelf and some movement off to my left caught my attention. It was a hind leg feebly kicking, and that leg was attached to a very dead cow elk. F132CB22-7966-442D-A553-19614F01812F.jpeg
I’d hit her almost exactly where I was holding. You can see a black spot just behind the shoulder in this picture. That’s the entrance wound. At the shot the elk had dropped off her shelf, rolled once got her feet under her and made it about 30 yards to where she fell over dead.

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If you look at the front leg you can see the fractured and swollen leg down by the fetlock just above the hoof.

The best part about this hunt was sharing it with my daughter who is now 24 and has been hunting with me since she was an infant.

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We took in the sights and sounds of the moment and took some picture. I gutted the cow and tied some ropes to her with the idea of dragging the cow down the steep hill to the road. We quickly figured out that this idea was not going to work. We got about 20 yards down hill the cow was getting hung up on every rock and cactus. We realized that we were going to have to quarter her and take her out on our backs.

I pulled out my knife and started quartering the cow. My daughter was taking a hindquarter over to some rocks to lay it down off the grass. I heard her say “DAD LOOK” I turned not knowing what I’d see. There about 20 feet from her was a swift fox. She was calmly looking at my girl and then bent to take a drink from some puddled water in a rock. My daughter put the hindquarter down on the rocks and stood watching the beautiful little blue fox. The fox gazed back at her and yawned, walked over to the base of a tree in the sun, flopped down, curled up and went to sleep.

We quickly dug out the camera at started taking pictures. The fox comfortably napped less than 30 feet from us while we worked on the cow.

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After a while she sat up and calmly watched us complete our work.
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As we departed we made sure and left the polite little fox a hefty meal. She quietly walked over to the carcass sniffed it and bid us good day as we departed .

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What an incredible experience to have and what an incredible thing to share with your daughter. I hope that swift fox has a happy and healthy winter.
 
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I’ve read on the internet that a .308 doesn’t have enough velocity to open up on game beyond 400 yards. Here is a picture of the fully expanded exit wound after blowing through this cow at 572 yards. 6B2055FD-6A2A-4164-84E3-E5ACFC097682.jpeg

I can’t speak to all bullets but a 165 Gr Nosler Accubond will definitely expand and punch through an elk’s chest at over 400 yards. I’ve seen it twice now and am impressed with this bullet out of a .308 Win.
 
Great work H&H! Impressed by the 165 Accubond at distance that’s good stuff

I’ve been very happy with the 180gr from my 300wsm. Haven’t shot an elk at distance with it yet but with deer and antelope past 200 yards I’ve never recovered a bullet. Great controlled expansion at extended ranges and reduced velocities
 
Well told story again, thanks.H&H!

And, good on you for taking that wounded elk, she was definitely coyote bait sooner or later.

Hunting pronghorn with my cousin years ago, we were just getting set up to shoot a decent buck when some moron came roaring up, jumped out of his truck and started blazing away. He hit the buck in the lower jaw and then drove away. It was up to my cousin and I to finish the job. We did, but the buck was spooked and scared and hard to kill. Screwed up my whole hunt. And, we were on my cousin's ranch, the guy didn't even have permission to be there!
 
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This hunting story is like most on THR - better than anything in a current hunting magazine!

Nice work!

I agree, the hunting stories on THR are far more entertaining and informative than the current crop of writers in hunting magazines. We like to talk about our passion for hunting and the outdoors. Pro hunting writers are paid to sell stuff. I can’t hardly pick up a shooting or hunting magazine any longer.
 
Update,

I sent the fox pictures to a wildlife biologist buddy. That is not a swift fox (Vulpes velox), it is a greyfox (Uricyon cinereoargentus). Just FYI. :)

I was informed that the swift fox is primarily nocturnal and a short grass prairie dweller, while the grey fox is commonly found in canyons and rocky outcropping areas such as where we saw her. Man oh man I love learning and studying wildlife and habitat!
 
Gray fox are pretty tame around folks. We used to have a vixen in the wooded 5 acres next to our house and every evening she would come to the entrance walkway and bark that funny bark they do until one of us would come to the door. Then she would proceed to the cow tank and get her fill of water. It was like she was asking permission to get a drink.
 
Years ago my dad and grandfather would run foxhounds. Never killed a fox or even took a gun. On our farm there was a gray fox that would come to the edge of the pasture and bark at the tied up foxhounds to tease them. Dad would tell me to give him a 30 minute head start then let the dogs loose. Many a night I fell asleep listening to the dogs chase a fox. I think the fox enjoyed being chased as much as the dogs enjoyed chasing him! Very good story a great shot and you shared the experience with your daughter. Can't get any better!!
 
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I can’t speak to all bullets but a 165 Gr Nosler Accubond will definitely expand and punch through an elk’s chest at over 400 yards. I’ve seen it twice now and am impressed with this bullet out of a .308 Win.

Conventional wisdom says around 1800 fps impact speed for expansion but a lot of guys feel better with 2000 fps minimum. With my loads, in my 308 rifles, 165 GR AB's velocity drops below 1800 fps at around 550 yards. Below 2000 fps at just over 400 yards.

A 400 yard shot would be my self imposed limit. Not because of the cartridge, but that is as far as my comfort zone extends. This is why I sold all of my magnum rifles and settled on a 308 as my do everything cartridge some years ago. Reading stuff like this is confirmation that I made the right choice.

Good story!
 
What a difference altitude makes! I used 2740 MV, but at sea level. Within 20 fps of the number you used, but at 6500' you're getting an extra 160 fps at 500 yards. If we accept 1800 fps impact speed as acceptable that gives another 150 yards of effective range.

Crazy how much air density affects a bullet.
 
Because I’m a geek and I really enjoy this stuff. I boiled out the cannon bone from this cow. Wow, this poor girl really did a number on herself. That’s supposed to be a straight bone. She really broke it good!

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